Sinfest

You are correct with what the music is. The notes match up with the main guitar riff.

@Alternate Sinfest ideas: Mind if I borrow some/all of those ideas for my WIP Sinfest Redux?

I doubt it's made entirely of metal even now. What kind of metal is completely transparent like glass, for example?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

It indeed seems to be part of Crazy Train.

I hate Tats's habit of making sheet music a punchline. Trying and failing to make a sound gag visual. I've ranted about it before, still hate it.

How hard is it to include sound in a webcomic? Even a midi playing in the background would accomplish the same effect, but 100 times better. Lazy bastard.

Also, the notes are written with an F-clef in front. That's usually used for the bass part of songs, but Tats hasn't done the bassline here. I don't know why he did this.

Transparent aluminium, of course!

Oh, and the music is the main riff from Iron Man, from Black Sabbath's album Paranoid. Crazy Train is from the Ozzy Osbourne solo album Blizzard of Ozz

edited 24th May '17 5:51:17 AM by Deadlock

Boy, do I feel stupid. You're completely right. I'm kicking myself for not looking better at it.

This makes the use of music as a punchline even weirder. Not even the tagline in the top right provides an illustration of what the music is supposed to be. I am completely triggered right now!

Iron Man also makes sense as a joke here, and actually makes more sense with the written punchline: Iron Man is all metal, because he's iron. If Tats assumed that that was the main joke and that most people got it, the Crazy Train reference in the tagline could just be an add-on bonus joke, like the tagline usually is. But, yeah, most people can't read music, so most people aren't going to just get the Iron Man joke. And you can't exactly just Google the musical notes to look up the reference if you don't get it.

That said, I would hate it even more if comics came with auto-playing music.

No need for it to be autoplaying, just have a little embedded player.

Well, at least he wrote actual notes for a song instead of just throwing random notes in, even if many people can't read them.

You know one thing I would keep from canon Sin Fest to alternate Sin Fest is the fact that Seymour would still be nicer than he was int he beginning. I actually how modern Seymour has progressed to actually live up more to his faith, and actually has come to care about others. When you compare his more Jerkass past moments to the current actions of the Sisterhood, he actually looks like a saint compared to them.

They're the new zealots.

Nobody likes zealots.

The worst part is the narrative shills the new zealots as if they are heroes, and not extremists.

New strip: http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2017-05-25

Oh, boy! Sophisticated political satire again!

Really says a lot when I can get better satire from /b/ than I can Tats.

Yeah, if the Sisterhood had just been "Feminist!Seymour"s then I don't think anybody would have had a problem with them.

Also I wonder if Seymour's softening is also an effect of the comic's ideological turn? I have seen a certain association in the minds of ...I really don't want to say "Social Justice Warriors" anymore because I feel like that term has been co-opted by alt-righters, so let's call them "alt-lefters" instead... evident in the things they say at least, an association of atheism and irreligion with a "libertarian neckbeard" stereotype and thus with the right. (Which always seems really odd to me because religiosity has always, since the terms "left" and "right" were coined centuries ago, been associated with the right, and irreligion with the left.) It seems like this new, "alt" left demands that people be accepting and uncritical of religion generally, or else you're basically as bad as a racist or sexist. (Actually that seems like a general trend: if you want to take a critical or analytic stance on anything and figure out which of several options is the best, instead of just saying that everything is equally good in every way and there's no such thing as right or wrong about any matter, then you're a bigot in their eyes).

Anyway... it seems like the softening of Seymour may possibly go along with that. You can't make fun of the religious (even when they're extremists who would send women to the kitchen and gays to hell and blacks back to Africa? really?) so the religious stereotype character has to be reformed.

& I actually find this satire mildly amusing and inoffensive.

edited 24th May '17 9:07:04 PM by Pfhorrest

Nah, I have seen a lot of left wing people who have very extreme views on religion. So, it's not really a general thing for all left leaning people.

I'm not sure exactly which part of me you're "nah"ing, but to be clear I wasn't saying that the left are all irreligious, but that the irreligious have generally been on the left. The original left from the French Revolution, from which classical liberal movements spread, were opposed to the authorities of church and state alike. They weren't all or even mostly atheists or irreligious of course, but anyone who WAS atheist or irreligious would have been on the side opposed to the authority of the church too.

And then the "new" left, from a century ago now, that arose from Marx and found its iconic form in Stalin and Mao, was explicitly anti-religious. And the new right that formed in polarization to them was vehemently religious in reaction; that's when all the "God" language was added to much of the state trappings in the United States, the pledge of allegiance and money and such, during the Cold War. Again, that didn't nearly make everyone to the left of them irreligious, but anyone was was irreligious wasn't going to be siding with them.

And then I'm saying that this even NEWER, "alt" left movement that I'm refusing to call "SJ Ws" but you all know the people I mean, seem to be weirdly anti-anti-religion, which is weird because it breaks from all of that history above.

edited 24th May '17 9:21:32 PM by Pfhorrest

I prefer the term Ctrl Left

Case in point: I am center-right wing, and also an atheist. To say that I get along with a very, very narrow spectrum of people is an understatement.

On a happier note.... I get to fuck with both ANTIFA and the (admittedly rare) actual neo-nazi/ALT-Right types.

Basically an unlimited supply of free entertainment, neither side has a sense of humor.

I prefer Del-Left.

....... I'm not apologizing.

edited 24th May '17 9:56:40 PM by Raylas

That's an interesting spectrum to be on.

I suppose so. I just don't usually get along with people who lean terribly far to either side, since they usually get dogmatic and aggressive, or spin off into crazy shit.

Basically, I get along well with center-right, center-left, libertarians, and civic nationalists.

I mean, have you MET some of the Alt-right or Antifa idiots? They believe some hilariously stupid stuff, they will say shit that like, you'd see in trollfics, but with a straight face, deadly serious.

As for this comic..... if it's satire, I do not see what for. It just seems like a silly little gag strip, I'm fine with this.

P.S. Fuck you, Madhouse difficulty Mia. And the chainsaw you rode in on!

edited 24th May '17 10:24:28 PM by Raylas

I haven't really encountered them, but the the more you stay away from them the better.

Yeah, they're fucking weird and I tend to try and keep them out of smelling distance.

Not a turn of phrase, either. I've scoped out several protests, and neither group has knowledge of deodorant.

A friend of mine who does freelance journalism on this kind of shit said that during the summer, especially if it's in California or down south, the BO is so bad it's made her eyes water.

Real talk, I tend to fuck with them online. I don't advocate confronting them in person, they're unpredictable and both are prone to aggression.

edited 24th May '17 10:35:31 PM by Raylas

The smell could probably knock out a mountain lion. I do wonder what Tata lies on the spectrum. He seems to lie on a crazy side of the left.

I think the point of the satire is that "America is leaving Trump behind", symbolized by Sam Bot and its drone squadron literally leaving the little Trump Drone behind. Satirizing how it is looking increasingly plausible that Trump might not even get one complete term, even if the rest of the Republicans (represented by the still-foreboding Sam Bot & squad) have to be the ones to do him in. It's not especially clever, but I get the joke at least.

edited 24th May '17 10:35:58 PM by Pfhorrest

The problem is that Trump satire has worn out, and Tat kind of makes it even more cliche with the usual jokes.