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Mandemo Since: Apr, 2010
#8926: Oct 20th 2014 at 9:16:34 PM

Well, her having flashbacks is nothing new. I think it's less of PSTD and more of fear of going back.

As for triggers... people are different. Which is why I think trigger warnings are useless. Some people don't react to them and get insulted that you dare to assume they are some sort of delicate flower that will fall apart if you don't constantly protect them, others appreciate them since it helps them to avoid stuff that might actually trigger them and some think that trigger warnings are bigger triggers than whatever they are warning about.

Raylas Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird. Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird.
#8927: Oct 20th 2014 at 9:33:52 PM

[up][up] No idea, but looking at the symptoms, I gotta say, it seems less like PTSD and more like guilt. PTSD, evidently, requires immediate threat of death or severe mutilation/injury as part of the cause.

Guilt I would understand, but PTSD would require that she or somebody she cared about was in immediate threat of death or severe harm. I somehow doubt anybody has ever gotten PTSD from torturing another person.

edited 20th Oct '14 9:34:10 PM by Raylas

daveshan Since: Dec, 2010
#8928: Oct 20th 2014 at 10:27:50 PM

edited 20th Oct '14 10:28:38 PM by daveshan

hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#8929: Oct 21st 2014 at 4:34:45 AM

I've had PTSD for a couple of years after me and my mother got threatened with a knife at the store we were working together at. It's mostly gone now, however I still feel a bit on edge around people with knives and in certain situations that don't always make sense to me.

PTSD is triggered by living through traumatic situations where you are in mortal danger (or perceive yourself to be) and never properly processing the trauma associated with it. It can also be triggered by things like sexual abuse. Stuff happening to you that you really don't want to but aren't able to prevent.

What Tats is doing with PTSD is very strange. With Fuchsia he's playing the emotions straight, even though I think she has little to be traumatized about. She's a devil that legitimately enjoyed her work before Criminy came along, so I'm not sure why hell fire would be traumatic for her. She doesn't really seem to suffer from anything else in her behaviour, what starkly contrasts with what's being shown in regard to the men.

Squig and Slick got threatened with a shotgun and had every reason to think they would die. The nightmares are a really strong indication for PTSD. Also Squigs paranoid behaviour and irrational fear (or anger) is really how having PTSD is. Yet Slick and Squig he seems to be playing for laughs.

Flashbacks weren't so bombastic as in this comic, they just put me back in the situation I was before. To me it was more like a really intense dream while my eyes were open.

Apparently if it's REALLY bad you have to ACT like it, which is why soldiers with PTSD can be a real danger to themselves or others. (never reached that level myself fortunately) The first Rambo movie wasn't all that far fetched in that regard.

edited 21st Oct '14 4:38:54 AM by hayate666

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#8930: Oct 21st 2014 at 6:11:35 AM

I think Foosh's case is more of her now feeling both ashamed and horrified at how she took pleasure in tormenting people before Criminy came into her life, and that she's trying her best to put as much distance between herself and that aspect of her past. That, and she did get temporarily pseudo-brainwashed into Angry-Eyes Evil mode by the Big D at least once, in order to snap her back from being enlightened by Buddha/sanctified by Jesus; perhaps that is what's causing her nasty flashbacks.

edited 21st Oct '14 6:11:53 AM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#8931: Oct 21st 2014 at 8:39:17 AM

Alright then, I'll admit I jumped the gun calling that PTSD. Sorry guys.

hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#8932: Oct 21st 2014 at 3:50:57 PM

[up]Well it's not your fault. Tats is clearly TRYING to portray the PTSD-experience, but in my eyes he's failing to do so correctly because of the reasons I mentioned in my previous post.

Pfhorrest Since: Apr, 2011
#8933: Oct 21st 2014 at 7:13:09 PM

A bit of a tangent, but people over at the Does Not Play Well With Others official forum were just joking about the possibility of a Sinfest crossover due to events of a recent plot arc, which make me realize that that recent plot arc would be of interest to you guys in light of things like Nazi Fest, since it's basically Nazi Fest in book form in-universe:

Part 1 (nine pages ago) Part 2 (the next page) Epilogue (today's page)

Raylas Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird. Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird.
#8934: Oct 21st 2014 at 8:10:09 PM

[up] That was freaking HILARIOUS. I like that it took shots at the anti-Gamer Gate brigade, it was pretty funny.

Might start reading that comic, it looks pretty hilarious.

Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#8935: Oct 21st 2014 at 8:46:20 PM

http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2014-10-22

He finally finds Fuchsia but she's now mad apparently. Poor guy just has rotten luck don't he?

Geoduck bivalve from Pacific Northwest Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
bivalve
#8936: Oct 21st 2014 at 9:26:36 PM

Wow. I'm genuinely curious to see where Tats is going with this.

http://www.mansionofe.com
Cladriah Since: Aug, 2014
#8937: Oct 22nd 2014 at 1:37:43 AM

Agreed. For once since I started reading this comic. I am unsure where he is going to go with it.

Mandemo Since: Apr, 2010
#8938: Oct 22nd 2014 at 1:43:14 AM

Regarding Does Not Play Well With Others... here is a quote from the auhthor himself. Emphasis mine.

Yeah, I was just talking about the private Keenspot board. Sorry, for it being something boring and simple.

Also, my memory of the whole Otaku Feh mess is hazy, but I think the most Tatsuya actually did was request that the site be removed, though that's just what I recall seeing about it on the board, Kelly could have gotten worse threats by pm or email, of course. The wacky thing about Otaku Feh was, I'm convinced Kelly did it just to see if he could just get any form of reaction out of Tatsuya at all. Like it was the webcomic equivalency of those people who try to get the guards at Buckingham Palace to crack a smile or something. And he wasn't the first to try something like that either. That's how little interaction Tatsuya Ishida ever had with the rest of the webcomic community; (back when things were small and condensed enough for there to be a community) people were deliberately poking him with sticks just to see if they could get so much as a 'stop' out of him.

Reclusive Tats is reclusive.

Now, the latest comic...

Why do I feel Tats is building up to do something I will hate, again?

edited 22nd Oct '14 1:44:39 AM by Mandemo

hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#8939: Oct 22nd 2014 at 2:26:09 AM

What is suddenly making her hair move? Has someone snuck up on her with a giant fan?

I get the feeling Tats is going nowhere with this as usual. Zombie gets scared and goes away, Fuchsia never realises he was there to begin with.

edited 22nd Oct '14 2:30:51 AM by hayate666

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#8940: Oct 22nd 2014 at 4:41:32 AM

I'd say character lines that go no where but that would imply these stick lines that Tats is somehow writing a story about go beyond one dimension.

imojee Be evil from The Desert Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: In bed with a green-skinned space babe
Be evil
#8941: Oct 22nd 2014 at 12:40:09 PM

Well I guess I'm going to have to start reading Does Not Play Well With Others now, I'm hooked just from those pages.

Through the eyes I have known you.
Pfhorrest Since: Apr, 2011
#8942: Oct 22nd 2014 at 2:33:48 PM

I'd highly recommend Poe's earlier work too. Babylon Jones and Exploitation Now are the same genre and set in the same universe as Does Not Play Well With Others and involve some of the same characters and a similar sense of humor. Errant Story is his biggest work to date and is probably not set in the same universe despite involving some maybe-same characters, and has plenty of Poe's humor but is on the whole this awesome epic high fantasy kitchen sink extravaganza and probably my favorite comic of all time.

Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#8943: Oct 22nd 2014 at 8:22:00 PM

http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2014-10-23

Well lookie there! Maverick's latest bout of stupidity actually managed to catch at least one member of The Sisterhood off guard! It's a Halloween miracle!

[down]Well I certainly wasn't complaining. Honestly, just seeing ANY of the Sisterhood caught off guard is nothing short of amazing to see.

edited 22nd Oct '14 8:36:37 PM by Metalix

daveshan Since: Dec, 2010
#8944: Oct 22nd 2014 at 8:25:27 PM

I'm actually happy about that since that is one of the Sue-sterhood that hasn't been shown to be a horrible bigot. Shows she has character flaws.

Medinoc Chaotic Greedy from France Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Chaotic Greedy
#8945: Oct 22nd 2014 at 11:26:32 PM

After seeing Sinfest links on the Grows on Trees page, I'm tempted to add an entry to SoYouWantTo.Write A Webcomic's pitfall section:

  • Dead Link: If you ever change website, engine or otherwise alter your comic's URL scheme, by all means try to remain compatible with the old one. Provide tools to convert, possibly on a separate page. If you switch from IDs to dates or the reverse, do show both on the new website.

And one for some other comics I know:

  • For the same reason, don't use URL prettyfiers that include only the title. Never make a page's URL dependent solely on the title: An ID or date is an information that is also useful to the reader... or to the guy who has to change the links next upgrade.

Edit: Added.

edited 22nd Oct '14 11:34:20 PM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#8946: Oct 23rd 2014 at 4:39:46 AM

Whuuut? Did I just see a sex bot stealing one of our motorcycles? [lol]

echoingsilence Since: Jun, 2013
#8947: Oct 23rd 2014 at 5:27:34 AM

Surely this won't be seen as a bad thing, stealing someone else's property.

If he tries to argue that the Fembot is not a person therefore laws do not apply to her, then that makes her entire struggle even more pointless than usual.

Mandemo Since: Apr, 2010
#8948: Oct 23rd 2014 at 6:31:34 AM

Funny thing: If you try to avoid consequences with law by claiming they don't apply, don't expect protection offered by the law either.

Morality is different thing, however.

edited 23rd Oct '14 6:31:48 AM by Mandemo

Pfhorrest Since: Apr, 2011
#8949: Oct 23rd 2014 at 10:51:39 AM

I dunno, I'd say if you flout morality by claiming it doesn't apply to you, it's reasonable to expect that some people may not apply it to their actions toward you either.


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