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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#27376: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:55:05 PM

That's because evolution does not have an end goal, nor does it strive for a "higher" evolution of itself. It doesn't work that way.

Maybe Tats has dug an ideological hole for himself he can't (or thinks he can't) get out of? Any new idea seems to clash with his ideology, and is thus dismissed?

Optimism is a duty.
Raylas Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird. Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird.
#27377: Jun 22nd 2018 at 3:11:27 PM

[up] I think it's more than any new idea: I think it's any new idea, any idea outside his ideology, and anything that suggests, however remotely, that he MIGHT, possibly be wrong in any way, shape, or form.

Why do I think this?

Have you met real radfems? tongue [lol]

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#27378: Jun 22nd 2018 at 7:57:56 PM

@Redmess: That's because evolution does not have an end goal, nor does it strive for a "higher" evolution of itself. It doesn't work that way.

Definitely this! All that matters is whether an organism can pass on its genes to later generations. Tapeworms are just as "evolved" as peacocks or humans.

Anyway, what I was getting at is that Sinfest has evolved away from what made it worth reading in the first place. It has become so self-referential that Tats has run out of new things to say within the structure he's imposed on it. How many times in how many ways can he say that prostitution is bad and is caused by pimps, that all prostitutes are forced into the profession and hate it, that all "PIV cis-het sex" is evil and exploitative, that masculinity is toxic, that women would be just fine if men didn't exist?

Sometimes evolution reaches a dead end, in which the species can't adapt to a changed environment, can't survive ... and doesn't. Compare the Sinfest Forum today to what it was ten years ago. One fan has posted today's strip in the forum ... and there are no responses. Nothing. Nada. Ничего.

The hell of it is that Tats had some promising plot lines that he apparently has dropped: the relationship between Criminy and Fuchsia, Fuchsia's efforts to survive in the Reality Zone, a possible relationship between Criminy and Prudence Prostitute, Fuchsia's potential jealousy over Prudence and Crim, Blue's longing for Fuchsia, Blue's potential blackmail of Satan, Vainglorious plotting to take over from Satan, Vainglorious' strained relationship with his mother, Slick's struggle with Sleaze, the nameless fembots trying to become human, even Uncle Sam and Ms Liberty ...

And instead Tats emits strip after strip after strip of "Giant pimp robots are bad and oppress people, m'kay?"

edited 22nd Jun '18 8:22:53 PM by Hexapodia

yamiblade Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#27379: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:03:27 PM

That's the problem with ideals formed solely on the hatred of something. Eventually you just become static, unchanging and can't create something new because you've already said Everything you can about how terrible something is and how the world would be so much better without them.

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#27380: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:06:09 PM

*GASP!* It's 9:00 pm PDT, and there's a new strip! http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2018-06-23

edited 22nd Jun '18 9:06:51 PM by Hexapodia

bigking Since: Apr, 2011
#27381: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:16:00 PM

So what is sleazes deal these days? It seems like he has just overwhelmed whatever it was between him and slick and just become own character in the real world.

Can we please see how slick is doing with this new development? Is he happier now that sleaze is off being his own thing? Has he achieved his goal of becoming a better person?

Who the hell knows since his bomfed imaginary demon side gets like a hundred times more screen time than slick does.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#27382: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:37:09 PM

I don't think Tats really want to focus on Slick, since he's been phased out as the main character.

yamiblade Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#27383: Jun 22nd 2018 at 10:27:01 PM

Knowing Tats Slick is on the floor, unable to move, starving to death. Because Tats hates him and men besides himself that much.

Tats really is reminding me of the villian of the Agent Aika anime Sage Reviewed for some reason.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#27384: Jun 23rd 2018 at 2:24:14 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if Sleaze will eventually replace Slick entirely.

Tats may be pulling an Anti-Hero Substitute here. I think he toyed with the idea for Monique too, but decided against it.

Optimism is a duty.
hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#27385: Jun 23rd 2018 at 4:07:16 AM

Even if Tats is going some light comedy here, even reusing Old Sinfest material, he's still being heavy handed in the tag line for the comic.

What crawled up his butt?

edited 23rd Jun '18 4:14:19 AM by hayate666

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#27386: Jun 23rd 2018 at 8:50:37 AM

[up] Hmm. Exactly ten years and one month ago.

This strip isn't as greyed-out as the previous one with Sleaze. Replacement in progress?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#27387: Jun 23rd 2018 at 10:04:23 AM

I noticed that too. Why do his recent strips look so greyed out?

Optimism is a duty.
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#27388: Jun 23rd 2018 at 10:35:53 AM

This again annoys me that he allows Monique to be such an asshole, but if Slick just does one little thing he's dragged through the mud and hell.

yamiblade Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#27389: Jun 23rd 2018 at 11:39:26 AM

[up] Well of course he lets Monique be a asshole and never get punished and anyone who calls her out is treated as a bad guy. She's HIM. So of course Tats is gonna let his author avatar be portrayed as in the right one hundred percent of the time. She's Basically his version of Chris-Chan's Selfinsert.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#27391: Jun 23rd 2018 at 2:00:29 PM

@yamiblade: Well of course he lets Monique be a asshole and never get punished and anyone who calls her out is treated as a bad guy. She's HIM. So of course Tats is gonna let his author avatar be portrayed as in the right one hundred percent of the time.

Here's my suspicion, with emphasis on how the current situation came to be:

I think originally Tats did do a self-insert: the trio of Slick, Criminy, and Squig — three aspects of his personality that could be viewed as Ego, Superego, and Id. Monique started out representing all women — his view of them and how he interacted with them.

But if Tats had a daughter who gave him ideas, such as the strips about menstrual cramps, then that would have caused a problem. If Monique represented his daughter, he couldn't make fun of her, and he certainly couldn't portray her as a slut. So Monique mellowed out between 2006 and 2011, and her sluttiness vanished.

Then his daughter got woke, called him out, and the Big Change happened. The rest I've said several dozen times already, so I'll stop here.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#27392: Jun 23rd 2018 at 2:15:32 PM

So you're suggesting that Monique, and by extension Xanthe, is his daughter?

Mind you, this is all wild speculation. Or do you know something we don't?

Optimism is a duty.
yamiblade Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#27393: Jun 23rd 2018 at 2:25:03 PM

[up] In that case....Tats is the ur-example of a Pushover Parent and raised a Spoiled Brat.

edited 23rd Jun '18 2:25:28 PM by yamiblade

hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#27394: Jun 23rd 2018 at 6:02:33 PM

He might be a father, but he's also very reclusive. Tats has made several comics where he considers starving before going out to get basic groceries.

Generally it's necessary to leave the house to find someone to make a daughter with! [lol]

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#27395: Jun 23rd 2018 at 6:13:59 PM

@Redmess: Mind you, this is all wild speculation. Or do you know something we don't?

Entirely wild speculation ... based on what I can see of the themes and statements of the comic over the years.

For example, the menstrual cramp comics, starting in 2006 and continuing. Male cartoonists probably don't give a lot of thought to the agonies of menstrual cramps unless they are living with people who have them — daughters, girlfriends, sisters, or wives. Considering that there weren't any of these strips for the first six years, I'd say a wife is ruled out, so likely he had a new girlfriend, he moved in with a sister, or a daughter entered puberty.

And I think this hypothetical female person is not a girlfriend because she has become more and more openly and outspokenly lesbian. Perhaps she's a sister, but my money's on a daughter.

Statements? How about this? Or this? Or this? Or especially this?

(And on that last link, note the eyes. This version of WokeMonique has some amount of Asian ancestry.)

@hayate666: Generally it's necessary to leave the house to find someone to make a daughter with! [lol]

But the daughter-begetting would have been somewhere back around 1990 to 1995, before the hikikomori syndrome took hold.

edited 23rd Jun '18 8:28:52 PM by Hexapodia

Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#27396: Jun 23rd 2018 at 10:41:36 PM

http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2018-06-24

Tats, I need you to do something alright? Watch my left hand hand. Just watch for a minute. You see it? You see it? Take a good long look at it...

YOU ARE NOT NEARLY SMART ENOUGH TO COVER A SITUATION THIS UNBELIEVABLY COMPLEX AND FUCKED UP! YOU CAN'T EVEN HANDLE RACIAL ISSUES WITHOUT MAKING THE SIDE YOU SUPPORT LOOK BAD!

Go sit in the corner Tats! That's right, the one with Dakari-King Mykan, Andrew Dobson and Jay Naylor! You stay there until you learn!

edited 23rd Jun '18 10:42:44 PM by Metalix

bigking Since: Apr, 2011
#27397: Jun 23rd 2018 at 11:32:22 PM

Whatever this strip is supposed to represent, it's failed horribly.

All I got from it is tats thinks America is the worst place ever.

I disagree. Completely.

But on a more positive note, idiocy of the strip being ignored, man he can draw some pretty pictures.

That last panel with the pimptron in the background shrouded in dust or whatever is really evocative. I really wish he was still sane. I'd love to see him do stuff that wasn't crazy propaganda.

alarkhar Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Desperate
#27398: Jun 23rd 2018 at 11:41:51 PM

Note: the only refugees clearly visible (as in "not faceless") are women.

I'm pretty sure that it's just a coincidence. Also, I'm pretty sure that today Pinkie Pie will show up and take me to Millennium City to be a superhero.

Platypi hold the secret to happiness.
Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#27399: Jun 24th 2018 at 12:11:34 AM

Okay, I was wrong. My theory a few comments ago doesn't explain what's going on. But I have a new theory that explains everything.

Tats is simply batshit crazy. He can't deal with the failure of his career, so he's blaming the Ultimate Big Bad — American society — for everything that's wrong in the entire universe.

After all, if there were any justice in this world, he would be hailed by one and all as the Super Genius that he obviously is, right?

Raylas Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird. Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird.
#27400: Jun 24th 2018 at 12:32:27 AM

[up] I like it.

Also, I fucking warned him not to touch the Migrant thing......

Should have listened to me, Tats, I was trying to help you.


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