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Because Kinkajou told me to.

So yeah, anything about Final Fantasy! I guess this would make a good starting point: Which are your favorite games in the series and why?

My two all-time favorites are tied between Final Fantasy V and Final Fantasy IX. They're both very fun games that don't take themselves too seriously while still being legitimately emotional. On top of that, Zidane is my favorite Final Fantasy lead in the entire series. He's light-hearted, fun, and a generally nice guy to be around. FFV also has the advantage of having one of, if not the best, Job System in an FF game. Both FFV and FFIX make characters customizable while keeping them all unique in their own way. I'm also very fond of Final Fantasy I; it hasn't aged well, but it's classic, and like FFV, I played it tons as a kid.

I assume we'll drift around to various other FF-related discussions as the topic grows, right?

edited 3rd Nov '09 4:22:18 AM by Stark Maximum

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#42601: Aug 23rd 2016 at 10:49:38 AM

[up][up] Vincent is a tragic figure but he is more aloof than unfriendly. Even Cid Highwind is more of a tough-as-nails badass than a douche.

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#42602: Aug 23rd 2016 at 11:31:29 AM

I prefer Yuffie,she's happy and upbeat

Even when she runs off with all my materia..

edited 23rd Aug '16 11:31:42 AM by Ultimatum

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#42603: Aug 23rd 2016 at 11:31:34 AM

[up][up] I know. That's why I was agreeing with what was said. Vincent is one of the nicer characters in the VII party, to be frank.

edited 23rd Aug '16 11:32:22 AM by Nikkolas

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#42604: Aug 23rd 2016 at 2:34:20 PM

I dont know if i could call someone who broods 'Nice'

I always assumed he was a zombie/undead as he sleeps in a coffin

edited 23rd Aug '16 3:12:04 PM by Ultimatum

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#42605: Aug 23rd 2016 at 3:22:02 PM

Well, brooding doesn't mean you are rude to people. Unless you're Squall, anyway. A lot of people say Lightning is a "female Cloud" (in terms of actual personality, not just design) but she's really more like Squall.

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#42606: Aug 23rd 2016 at 4:11:37 PM

Does Lightning have dark and troubled past where she discovers she has false memories created from a traumatic event ?

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#42607: Aug 23rd 2016 at 4:16:38 PM

She does have a troubled childhood where she felt like she must act like an adult way too early and ended up with a twisted idea of what that actually meant, like Squall.

Instead of a protect the troubled big sister, who he had forgotten the actual person, she has to protect a troubled little sister.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#42608: Aug 23rd 2016 at 5:10:20 PM

Yep yep, she's definitely Squall.

Cloud has the same cool badass false persona thing, but his reasons for having are very different.

edited 23rd Aug '16 5:11:04 PM by asterism

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lycropath Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#42609: Aug 23rd 2016 at 5:25:23 PM

Squall I find is a lot more solemn and quiet compared to Lightning's more outspoken and aggressive personality.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#42610: Aug 23rd 2016 at 7:08:07 PM

But where Squall is secretly a huge dork, Lightning basically has nothing but melodrama to humanize her.

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#42611: Aug 23rd 2016 at 7:18:40 PM

I think early Cid might be toned down in the remake; his treatment of his assistant is horrible. Especially since they apparently got married after they made up, which I find creepy even though Cid was clearly genuinely repentant.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#42612: Aug 23rd 2016 at 7:23:58 PM

He's like that to literally everything, though.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#42613: Aug 23rd 2016 at 7:24:33 PM

From what I've heard, his treatment of Shera is a problem with the localization mostly. He was clearly not very nice to her but the sheer level of his vitriol was a problem of the translation.

Also, it was all text. I think, with it being spoken aloud, they definitely will tone it way down.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#42614: Aug 23rd 2016 at 7:27:52 PM

While he does berate Shera too, in the same breathe he yells at the party to "sit [their] ass[es] down and drink [their] goddamn tea."

But yeah, you're right. I don't see the game being all that vulgar period in the remake.

edited 23rd Aug '16 7:28:13 PM by Hashil

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#42615: Aug 23rd 2016 at 7:30:30 PM

The problem isn't the dialogue, it's that after they forgive each other she still likes him enough to marry him after all he's done. Which might imply some things.

Lily Evans-Potter completely cut Severus Snape from her life for less than Cid did to Shera.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#42616: Aug 23rd 2016 at 7:36:41 PM

Cid is an abrasive, verbally abusive asshole to everyone. Period.

It's not something he developed specifically for her. We see it before the incident with the spaceship, too. It doesn't make it right, but it's not any more specifically geared to her than anyone else, and I guess it's something most people who work with him just get used to.

edited 23rd Aug '16 7:37:34 PM by Hashil

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#42617: Aug 23rd 2016 at 7:38:30 PM

Snape was also really close with the Riddle Youth that planned to join up with the madman who was, at the time, waging a campaign of terror and violence across the country and killing thousands or tens of thousands of people.

I'm one of the biggest Severus Snape fans you will ever meet but his moral character at the time was much worse than Cid's. It wasn't just words, it was his actions that chased Lily away. When he called her Mudblood all it did was confirm what his actions appeared to show. (although he really had no interest in blood purity)

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#42618: Aug 24th 2016 at 2:28:08 AM

So do you guys use Active or Wait? I'm thinking mainly in relation to FFIX.

Active is supposed to be the "Pro" speed but it feels lik IX's ATB system is built for Wait because Active can...uh, actively fuck you over in some boss fights.

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#42619: Aug 24th 2016 at 5:10:40 AM

Uhhh,neither cos I dont know what they are

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DamascaRamza There's always another secret. from Australia Since: Jul, 2011
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#42620: Aug 25th 2016 at 1:03:49 AM

Active means the ATB bar keeps loading for the party even when you're in the menu, Wait means it stops while you're in the menu during battle. I always use Wait.

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#42622: Aug 25th 2016 at 3:03:35 PM

So this caught my attention,from the triva section of the final fantasy wiki

"Final Fantasy IX can have up to two players controlling the party during combat, even though the feature is not mentioned in the instruction manual"

Seems kinda pointless to include in the first place,but has anyone actually tried it?

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#42623: Aug 25th 2016 at 5:27:05 PM

Talking about FFXIII elsewhere and it turns out I wasn't the only one fed the lie of "it gets good when it opens up."

With time, people have come to accept Pulse is pretty much the worst part of the game.

XIII is such a weird game. It's like, when you're stuck with two characters and thus making the battle system boring as shit, the story is at its peak. It's a tight focus on the characters, their interactions, their growth. Snow/Hope's subplot was the reason I kept playing XIII.

Then, after Chapter 9, you finally get access to a full three man party and can use whoever you want. The gameplay correspondingly gets good. BUT the story takes a nosedive into an empty pool, cracks its head on the bottom and bleeds out for the next few chapters. So as the game should be getting more fun, it just gets more frustrating because all the characters are done developing and all that's left is...plot A really dumb plot, like "let's cure our l'Cie brands!" "How?" "I dunno, but we can do it!" [ten hours later] "Oh, I guess we can't."

So, in the end, I can't even really say which part of the game is good because both parts have huge flaws. I still prefer early game but that's because I favor Story over Gameplay. I can deal with the tedious and dull dungeons because I still enjoy most of the party.

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#42624: Aug 26th 2016 at 12:15:28 AM

So not exactly Final Fantasy related, but I just finished the game Bahamut Lagoon, and I figure here's a good a place as any to make a post about it given the small influences between it and FF.

It's apparently the first game Kazushige Nojima and Motomu Toriyama worked on at Square, and I can at least definitely see the latter. Nojima was director, and Toriyama was the writer, which is interestingly the opposite of FFX-2, one of the few later games they worked on together. I just bring this up because the game's humor, being filled with dirty humor and the characters all acting like weirdos, reminds a bit of FFX-2 and the things Toriyama worked on in FFVII (the Honeybee Inn mostly). Also, BL and FFX-2 both happen to have an airship as the hub, the name of the former's later being used for the airship in FFX. I was also a bit surprised to see they just straight ripped enemy sprites from FFVI to use as enemy and dragon sprites here.

Anyway, the game overall was okay. The story and characters weren't that great, but there were a few effective moments here and there. The side characters didn't get as much to them as I hoped, since most chapters don't even give you a chance to talk to them, so they're pretty one-note. The gameplay is alright, but it's very easy to get way overpowered, and a lot of things about it felt really slow. Like animations in general felt like they took a while to get through, and as the game goes on enemies' HP inflates faster than your damage, so it starts feeling like it takes forever to kill anything.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#42625: Aug 26th 2016 at 12:37:04 AM

I assume you played it in Japanese, right? I played a bit of a fan translation a long while back and n ever finished it because it felt really generic overall, even if the dragon mechanics were an interesting little gimmick. I assume the old man who's overly familiar with the hero is the same way in the original script?


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