Dragon Age

There's pretty much one moment where closed fist is implemented properly: refusing to free the enslaved girl and telling her to kill her owner to free herself if she wants her freedom so bad. At all other times it's just about being Stupid Evil.

The Big Bad is actually an example of the tyrannical version of open palm.

KOTOR too had a lot of that. Then again that's sort of keeping with the source material (Part of why I like the Star Wars Legacy Comics. It paints the Sith in more nuanced tones)

And basically why I never liked Star Wars. That and I generally found it cleche. But mostly because the alignment system was incredibly screwed up and boring.

At least Star Wars didn't pretend it's morality system is more nuanced than simply good and evil unlike Jade Empire.

Part of what I hated about Mass Effect also. Paragon and Renegade are really meaningless

So, do I have to be a racist to be a Military Maverick? Do I have to be basically a human carpet that lets everyone walk over me if I want to be not racist? Must I be void of empathy and bordeline sociopathic if I am not willing to jump through every insane bureaucratic hoops the council throws my way.

edited 31st Oct '14 1:08:59 PM by CobraPrime

"I'm wondering if the issue of not reading DA:O saves is at all related to it being a Steam Copy of the game??? "

No, save files are save files.

"At least Star Wars didn't pretend it's morality system is more nuanced than simply good and evil unlike Jade Empire."

Jolee and Traya both destroyed that light/dark.

edited 31st Oct '14 1:03:28 PM by AnotherGuy

That's why you pick and choose rather than just sticking the wheel permanently at the top or bottom.

I can't be a jerk. Dx I don't know why, it's just I can never be mean in videogames. It hurts me.

It won't read the DA:O save if you never made a Bioware account (in the pre-origin days). The game doesn't check your local save, only the Bioware cloud ones.

Problem is that the game never tells you WHAT exactly you'll say. It gives you a blurb, but it's entirely possible to have Shepard blurt out some racist crap you didn't know the choice was going to have him say.

edited 31st Oct '14 1:11:48 PM by CobraPrime

I dunno. Most of the stuff that was racist seemed pretty obvious to me.

Yep, Mass Effect was stupidly limited because it actually eventually locked you out on how you could respond to scenarios.

I'd say ironically, for all it's flaws, DA 2 did morality the best of all the Bioware Games I've played. Friendship/Rivalry wasn't as fleshed out as I would have liked but you weren't necessarily railroaded into getting everyone's approval. In Origins, you either had to Micromanage how you dealt with your companions or spam them with gifts to lock them at 100% Approval.

The game has gone gold. Development is finished.

OH MY GOD YOU GUYS. IT'S ONLY 18 MORE DAYS. THAT'S LIKE A LITTLE OVER TWO WEEKS.

It's one of the things I've always disliked about karma meters. They assume an action if good/bad but can't account for the reasoning behind the decisions.

Take SF Debris' lets play of KOTOR. On Manaan, he decides to use the poison on the big ass shark, his reasoning being that "One of the two has actual lab tests supporting that his solution will work. The other "feels" her solution (destroying the equipment) will work and do less damage. So Chuck decides to go with the poison, based on the fact that one of the two is tested, and on top of that, going with the other's solution means that if it fails, they can't fall back to the poison coz they destroyed the equipment to release it.

Well poisoning the shark is Dark Side because poison is evil and shit.

Poisoning the shark is Dark Side because you poison the entire ocean.

Yes, but that's not the intended plan.

In fact, poisoning the entire ocean is raised as something that might happen but no test show that happening (In fact the guy who actually did tests thinks it wont)

So again, the light side approach is to believe Mrs. "I feel the poison will kill the Kolto and destroying the machine works. Trust my feeling. Alslo 10 minutes ago I though you were a selkath trying to eat me despite your ability to talk. So clearly my thinking is logical" and not the guy who actually has done lab tests. Because Science Is Evil. Hence Karma Meters are bullshit.

edited 31st Oct '14 2:06:24 PM by CobraPrime

No, I have some save characters from DA:O, including the ones I made on PC (God, I wish there was a way to delete some of these because a few are ones I started and saw facial flaws on), but it hasn't synced ANY of my DA:O DLC or Achievements.

EDIT: Can't read

edited 31st Oct '14 2:30:42 PM by CobraPrime

They're going to be adding a text-based adventure game to the Keep that bridges the gap between DAII and Inquisition. It looks a lot like Fallen London.

edited 31st Oct '14 3:28:13 PM by Mukora

Whens that?

"Soon." Was all they gave. I imagine within a week or so. Have a video.

edited 31st Oct '14 3:34:50 PM by Mukora

I wonder what the significance of the title is...

So was this text based game the collaboration between Bioware and Failbetter Games?

EDIT: Wait, YEP, it is. The video confirms that Dragon Age: The Last Court is a collaboration between Failbetter Games and Bioware.

edited 31st Oct '14 4:26:11 PM by higherbrainpattern

That would explain why it looks so much like Fallen London.