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lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#38551: Sep 18th 2014 at 1:53:26 PM

[up]I don't know where you got Timeless, but its The Elder One as our Villain.

I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.
Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
Editor of Posts
#38552: Sep 18th 2014 at 2:04:14 PM

Oh yeah, I remembered the name wrong. Does anyone have a picture of him? I still don't know what he looks like.

edited 18th Sep '14 2:04:55 PM by Druplesnubb

lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#38553: Sep 18th 2014 at 2:08:48 PM

Neither do we.

I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#38554: Sep 18th 2014 at 2:12:01 PM

I think we can enter the beta today now.

Chrisham2 from the backseat. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hiding
#38555: Sep 18th 2014 at 2:41:03 PM

Guys, stop me from buying DA2 on PC.

edited 18th Sep '14 2:41:12 PM by Chrisham2

It was a difficult delivery, now it's growing up mean and strong.
iamthecircle Pretentious Scholar of English from The Armpit of the Bible Belt Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
Pretentious Scholar of English
#38556: Sep 18th 2014 at 2:43:59 PM

Not sure I can do that. I like DA 2 so I support purchases of it.

Chrisham2 from the backseat. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hiding
#38558: Sep 18th 2014 at 3:17:50 PM

...I was probably gonna buy it no matter what anyone said...

Also, fuck Bio Ware and its stupid DLC point buying system. Glad I won't have to deal with the for Inquisition.

It was a difficult delivery, now it's growing up mean and strong.
Tarlonniel Since: Apr, 2012
#38559: Sep 18th 2014 at 4:32:34 PM

I wouldn't talk you out of buying it either. I agree with the folks who say it wasn't a bad game at all - just a bad Dragon Age game wink

AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#38560: Sep 18th 2014 at 5:25:49 PM

I haven't gotten it yet, and I already preordered the DD version. :(

lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#38561: Sep 18th 2014 at 6:58:01 PM

[up][up]Pretty much. The main issue I had with it is that it felt like it refused to move the plot hooks from the previous games ANYWHERE while constantly teasing me that they are there.

"Oh. Hey, Grey Wardens in Kirkwall. Sorry, can't tell you what we're doing here. Bye."

"Oh. Hey, King Alistair in Kirkwall. Going to mention planning something with The Warden and, sorry, you can't know what I'm talking about. Top Secret."

"Oh. Hey, Leliana in Kirkwall. Going to mention that conflict is brewing in Orlais and, sorry, not apart of this story."

GAH!

I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.
Chrisham2 from the backseat. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hiding
#38562: Sep 18th 2014 at 7:00:17 PM

I'm having to pause more often in II than I did in Origins.

But that's mostly because it's almost impossible to click on enemies without pausing.

It was a difficult delivery, now it's growing up mean and strong.
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#38563: Sep 18th 2014 at 7:19:46 PM

Yeah. DAII was basically a massive sequel hook in the form of an entire game.

Though, I don't think they had to use all the plot hooks from Origins.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#38564: Sep 18th 2014 at 7:38:11 PM

I don't think they had to either, but wasn't Witch Hunt marked as a Sequel Hook/Bridging DLC? And Witch Hunt had NOTHING to do with DA 2. It seems to hook a lot better into Inquisition from what I can tell.

And, sure, its fine to tease somethings and not answer some questions; leaving Flemeth for a future game is a great idea since she's a nice little core mystery of the series atm. But, I feel they teased more plots than they actually solved. They resolved very few plots that were left unresolved from the first game. Maybe just the Anders/Justice thing come to think of it. And Drunk!Alistair but I don't think too many made him a roaming drunk and that mostly sounded like an easy way to fold one branch into another.

I think I might have said it ages ago, but, at the moment, DA:O and DA 2 stand on their own pretty much (I needn't any knowledge of DA:O's plot to play DA 2 and vice versa) and its going to be Inquisition's job to bridge their narratives into each other more as well as have its own identity.

I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#38565: Sep 18th 2014 at 8:17:46 PM

True.

I don't think that's a bad thing, though.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#38566: Sep 19th 2014 at 5:07:33 AM

I want to see a showdown between Flemeth and Theresa.

lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#38567: Sep 19th 2014 at 5:12:55 AM

Well, Flemeth can turn into a high dragon and, from what I understand of the summary of Fable: The Journey I read, Theresa's only real powers are precognition and being The Ageless. Flemeth wins heads down.

AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#38568: Sep 19th 2014 at 10:09:11 AM

Yeah, being able to tell what your opponent will do before they do, useless.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#38569: Sep 19th 2014 at 10:38:21 AM

"Shit, she is going to eat me."

lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#38570: Sep 19th 2014 at 11:00:14 AM

Being able to tell what your opponent is going to do is useless if there is nothing you can do to stop your opponent.

Also, winners of the English "Take Your Place in the Inquisition" contest announced.

There's also going to be a Twitch stream at 4PM MST where devs will answer question tweeted at them about the Dragon Age Keep.

edited 19th Sep '14 11:05:31 AM by lrrose

iamthecircle Pretentious Scholar of English from The Armpit of the Bible Belt Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
Pretentious Scholar of English
#38572: Sep 19th 2014 at 2:04:46 PM

I think DA 2 just has really bad Middle Child Syndrome. It's just there to get to bigger points. Also I imagine that if Leiliana ended up being in every game in the franchise she'd more Theresa than Flemeth.

edited 19th Sep '14 2:06:29 PM by iamthecircle

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#38573: Sep 19th 2014 at 2:52:48 PM

wild mass guessLeiliana will become the new Divine at the end of Inquisitionwild mass guess

lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#38574: Sep 19th 2014 at 3:02:07 PM

Twitch stream is over.

  • The Keep will notify you if you make two conflicting decisions and won't let you proceed unless you change a decision.
  • You can lock a decision which will make it so the Keep will not let you accidentally undo a decision because you picked a conflicting decision.
  • Max of 5 World States, but this number is likely to change. It's an arbitrary number that is being used for development.
  • You choose which World State to import in DAI during character creation.
  • Release date still TBA mid-October 2014.
  • Friends and Family Keep Beta program gave 5 keys to everyone who was in the Keep when the program began.
  • LOL the streamers accidentally leaked 5 keys. Apparently they were used in 20 seconds.
  • Bioware is working on syncing issues that prevent the Keep from detecting your Wardens and your Hawkes.
  • Varric narration video is coming to the Keep beta in the next couple of weeks.
  • More decisions in the Keep are coming.
  • Decisions can still be (and probably will be) added to the Keep after the Keep and DAI itself are released.
  • If you're in the beta and you don't see a decision that you think should be in the Keep, use the beta feedback tool in the top-right corner.
  • The decisions you make in DAI will be synced to the Keep and will be visible. The Keep will have spoiler settings for DAI that will help to ensure that the Keep won't spoil DAI for you.
  • The Keep won't recognize mods. For example, you won't be able to romance Alistair as a male Warden.
  • No character creator in the Keep. "Big Sten 'No.'" "One day, hopefully."
  • Keep can be used on any console.
  • No save importing. The Keep sync some data from your Origin account, but all the Origin account has that is relevent to the Keep is your Warden and Hawke's race, class, gender, and origin story. The Keep already contains default characters for each race, class, gender, and origin, so syncing is not necessary.
  • They answered the question about save importing twice for some reason. Bioware reiterated that they actually are exploring that option, but it is "very unlikely" that it will be available at launch.
  • Keep will be avaliable in languages besides English. 8 languages: the same languages that DAI will ship with. Spanish, Portuguese, Polish, German, French, Russian, Italian, and English. Same 8 languages as Xcom: Enemy Within, I think.
  • Big technical explanation about how Inquisition handles importing world states and updating your world state as you play DAI. Not even going to try to summarize this. Sorry.
  • You don't actually have to sync before creating a world state.
  • Most popular requested decisions to add to the Keep: some Flemeth plots, Ser-Pounce-Alot, the boon at the end of DAO, Shmooples. Kitty (Shale DLC) is in now. The problem with adding more decisions is that they can create lag on the Keep because the conflict-resolver needs to check more decisions for conflicts. Probably won't be seeing anything added to Alistair decisions because of how many conflicts he is involved in.
  • You don't have to play the Varric movie to use the Keep. The first time you load the Keep, the Keep will encourage you to use the Varric video.
  • You can exit out of the Varric movie at any time.
  • Varric movie only makes you choose big decisions, but those decisions have a "ripple effect" that automatically chooses smaller decisions. However, the movie is mostly meant for the big decisions.
  • Keep system requirements: any modern browser. Works best on Firefox, Chrome, recent versions of IE. Works on smartphones too. Keep runs on console browsers, but there are still some glitches, especially on the 360.
  • You not be able to specify Warden and Hawke's specializations and weapons in the Keep at launch. They might be added in the future, but this falls into an area of character creation that goes outside the reach of the Keep.

edited 19th Sep '14 4:03:48 PM by lrrose

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#38575: Sep 19th 2014 at 3:02:56 PM

livestream about the keep. it just started!

[up] [nja]

edited 19th Sep '14 3:03:14 PM by higherbrainpattern


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