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#1: Apr 2nd 2024 at 4:04:07 AM

Clean, Pretty Childbirth is about the tendency for media to depict childbirth as an easy, tidy process, and the description goes into detail about how "pretty damn disgusting" it can get in real life. Before the trope list, the last line of the description is this note:

No aversions unless they are noteworthy, please, lest this example list become a list of every character ever born in any medium.

That makes sense... but what is a noteworthy aversion within the context of this trope? It's never defined; I would assume acceptable aversions would be based on factors like exceptional graphicness, historical significance, etc., but the handful of aversions listed on the page feel fairly random.

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#2: Apr 2nd 2024 at 7:25:39 AM

We usually don't define what is noteworthy for an Averted Trope because it'll get people quibbling about details. Question of is this noteworthy just becomes is this historically significant. If the page has numerous averted examples, they're unlikely to all be noteworthy.

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#3: Apr 2nd 2024 at 12:46:46 PM

To me, this seems like a case of a missing Opposite Trope (childbirth played for Bloody Horror).

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#5: Apr 3rd 2024 at 8:19:56 AM

Womb Horror is generally explicitly supernatural or otherwise exaggerated. I think maybe aversions of Clean, Pretty Childbirth that are just realistic/discuss the unreality of pop culture birth might be able to make a trope on their own

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#6: Apr 3rd 2024 at 11:23:40 AM

[up] The specific instance that got me looking into this trope is a scene from a Historical Fiction video game where you get to see a just-born baby caked in (stylized) blood, but no attention is drawn to the mess and the birth itself is a happy breather moment in an otherwise very dramatic part of the story. Indeed, Womb Horror wouldn't apply at all to situations like that.

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#7: Apr 3rd 2024 at 2:21:33 PM

If the historical fiction game is going for realism, then something realistic happening and the trope not getting pointed out at all probably isn't noteworthy. If it's, say, really unusual in this sort of video game or depictions of this era/event in history to avert Clean, Pretty Childbirth, it could be an example. If there's an interview with the creators where they say they went out of their way to depict this scene with some realism, that'd be a good bit for Trivia.

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