Editing Improvements & Changes

The latter wouldn't be of any use for rogue launches, since those are instant-suspension offenses. And technically, it wouldn't be useful either for stealth launches, given the possibility of the pages themselves being unlaunched and thus the link at the end of the message taking the editor to a blank/cut page.

EDIT: My bad. I misread the post as if it referred to Issue Helpers. I'm dumb.

Just realized.

Edited by MyFinalEdits on Feb 27th 2024 at 10:09:14 AM

I think they're for wick removal.

Forgot to mention that, but yes, it's for wick removal.

Just pushed live the new edit reason changes and additions

Thanks

But uhhh...that scroll gradient at the edges is not looking good

Also "sinkhole" is misspelled as "sinkehole"

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Mar 1st 2024 at 8:06:25 PM

looks fine to me. Sending up a hotfix for the misspelling in a minute.

The gradient seems to be only on night-vision, and I agree, it looks really bad and blocks most of the options.

Oh looks like the CSS guy missed night vision. I'll let him know.

I think "Incorrect namespace or Namespace change" might be a useful pre-set edit reason as well.

Edited by rmctagg09 on Mar 2nd 2024 at 3:59:37 PM

For example? I'm a bit struggling to recall cases for it.

Recently, A lot of pages originally in the Useful Notes namespace, like the ones for video game consolses or pages about the eras of Super Hero comics, have been moved to the new Platform and Media Notes namespaces and because of that, various wicks for these pages in the Useful Notes namespace need to have their namespace changed.

Edited by jlvs200s on Mar 2nd 2024 at 6:58:44 PM

I think a broader "The page was moved/renamed" would be more useful and is what many certain cleanups are doing.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 2nd 2024 at 9:08:49 PM

It has occured to me that citing Overly Long Pages on the too-long banner would be a good idea as it points to the relevant cleanup in case the troper can't help the page right away

Some thoughts I have on the current editing interface:

• I personally think having to scroll thought the selection of common edit reasons in a box is awkward. A dropdown menu that allows a user to select multiple options could be a way to keep things from getting too cumbersome as more edit reasons are added, though I understand that this would take additional time to develop.
• The top of the edit screen showing the name of the page being edited as Namespace / PageName is nice. However, if it were instead displayed as Namespace/PageName (without spaces around the slash) it could make crosswicking efforts easier though being able to copypaste the connected page's name directly instead of having to grab it from the page URL or another text entry field.
• Suggestions for additional edit reasons (wording tentative):
  • Swapping/moving over contents of a sandbox (for things like CM/MB page updates and creating work pages from sandboxes)
  • Indexing (for... placing pages on indexes)
• I presume that the "General clarification on work content" edit reason is what we're supposed to use when we're adding more context, but the wording has never made me feel entirely sure about that.

I agree, and since there's been discussion about linking pre-written edit reasons to the relevant policy pages, such as linking the edit reason for removing sinkholes to Administrivia.Sinkhole, I think it would make sense to link the word "renamed" to Administrivia.Renamed Tropes.

I also agree with having a pre-written edit reason for page moves in general instead of just for namespace changes (or at the very least, I don't think the latter would be necessary if we had the former).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 4th 2024 at 6:58:57 AM

Can we get a common edit reason to be correcting slash troping? I've run into many pages that put two tropes on the same line and add this when I split them up.

Now that the Visual Editor is finally live, please let me know about additional features you'd like added to it in this thread.

I've run across a couple people who were confused about what the edit reason "Trope was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup" is supposed to mean and mistakenly used it to indicate that they were removing examples for any reason, such as "trope is being misused" or "moving examples to another page".

To make it clearer, maybe something like:

• Trope page no longer exists; it was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup
• Trope page was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup and no longer exists

• Trope page no longer exists

"Trope was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup" is inaccurate in the first place because TRS action isn't a cleanup.

"Trope page no longer exists" also feels slightly inaccurate in case of disambiguation, as the page would remain but not for the trope

Maybe rather "Trope no longer exists due to being cut/disambiguated". Stronger focus on trope losing trope status and removing all-purpose "cleanup" phrasing.

I wrote "trope page" because of cases of disambiguation. Sometimes the trope concept remains, but is given a new name. In those cases, the old page may remain, but is no longer a trope page.

It sort of harkens back to the debate on if disambiguation counts as a cut.

Wait, there's a debate on that? I thought it was agreed that disambig'd is just a type of cut.

It tends to come up sometimes in TRS if voting to "cut" and "disambig" are the same. Not exactly the same issue happening here, but it stems from people thinking that if the page exists it's not a cut.