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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1: Oct 6th 2021 at 7:33:48 PM

Watched a Swedish TV show a few weeks ago.

There's an instance of an e-mail showing a screencap of a hostage video. Does Hostage Video still apply?

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2: Oct 6th 2021 at 10:07:57 PM

If it’s identified as a video then why wouldn’t it be?

Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 6th 2021 at 12:08:46 PM

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3: Oct 6th 2021 at 11:11:15 PM

Episode doesn't imply, but it looks like one.

Maybe the trope page needs to have a minor note that I can put up.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4: Oct 6th 2021 at 11:18:18 PM

The problem here is that you are not really giving context. What does "screencap" mean? If the characters on screen are watching a paused video on what is obviously Youtube of some terrorists tying civilians to a chair, then that's certainly a hostage video.

But then you use "doesn't imply but could be" phrasing, so that gets into Speculative Troping and Examples Are Not Arguable territory, and I would rather you not edit descriptions willy-nilly to accommodate such cases.

So please be clear.

Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 6th 2021 at 1:18:39 PM

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#5: Oct 7th 2021 at 12:41:31 AM

In this case, the episode has an e-mail from an unknown person. It also shows the screenshot of what appears to be a hostage video. I'm not sure if Hostage Video can be used to apply to that example.

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#6: Oct 8th 2021 at 2:39:21 AM

Do the characters or narration respond to the image in any way? If so, what do they have to say about it, or how do they otherwise respond?

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#7: Oct 8th 2021 at 8:34:17 AM

I mean, there's also the question of how they can tell it's a screenshot and not, say, a digital photograph.

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#8: Oct 9th 2021 at 6:42:31 AM

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For that, they (Swedish government) don't respond to terrorist demands. The kidnappers make another one, this time another live video with a threat to shoot a hostage on the internet.

Edited by Ominae on Oct 9th 2021 at 6:42:51 AM

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#9: Oct 9th 2021 at 8:42:29 AM

[up] Okay, so if I understand you correctly, the characters acknowledge that it's a hostage video, is that correct? If so, then I would say that it's indicated to be a hostage video, and thus would fit under the trope.

Edited by ArsThaumaturgis on Oct 9th 2021 at 5:42:59 PM

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