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#276: Aug 19th 2020 at 11:45:34 AM

Yeah, just look at the reviews section and find the ones with the most comments; there's quite a few "debates".

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#277: Aug 20th 2020 at 5:23:07 PM

This place has proven remarkably flame war free this past day. Nonetheless, the 3 days are up, and the consensus is to toss (pun intended) and PRLC Webcomic/Stonetoss. Hollering for a call.

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#278: Aug 20th 2020 at 5:27:11 PM

I wish the options had been "cut" and "cut and PRLC" rather than make the option "PRLC it if we cut it." I'm okay with cutting the page because I'm suspicious of the way it was first created, but I don't think I want it on PRLC until there's proof that it causes problems outside the forums. If someone from this discussion wants to remake it from the ground-up, with everything we said taken into consideration, I wouldn't mind.

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#279: Aug 20th 2020 at 5:29:02 PM

Creator.CN Real got recreated much more neutrally after being in the club for a decade, so who knows?

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#280: Aug 20th 2020 at 5:34:02 PM

[up] So is Creator.Uwe Boll.

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#281: Aug 20th 2020 at 5:46:27 PM

[up][up]So we'll just wait for Stone to stop making comics so he won't be as heated a topic to discuss, I suppose, since that's pretty much what happened with CN Real.

Has the Locked Pages thread been alerted about the potential new member to the PRLC? EDIT: Seems the locking was brought there, and mentioned the PRLC likelihood as well.

Edited by mightymewtron on Aug 20th 2020 at 8:50:46 AM

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#282: Aug 20th 2020 at 8:10:05 PM

For what it's worth, the suspended troper who made the Stonetoss page is saying the edit that omitted Judaism from another page was based in facts about the author being Christian, not in prejudice, and is okay with the change to "Abrahamic God," which is less worrying than I thought. Still keeping an eye on that situation, though.

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#283: Aug 20th 2020 at 8:10:16 PM

Someone toss the stone into the PLRC blackhole, please.

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#284: Aug 20th 2020 at 8:24:31 PM

[up][up][up] I was actually responsible for recreating CN Real, lol.

[up] Have you hollered the mods?

Edited by Kappaclystica on Aug 20th 2020 at 8:25:03 AM

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#286: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:36:57 PM

Now that it's been three days, we can theoretically call the crowner, right?

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#288: Aug 20th 2020 at 9:45:37 PM

'Judeo-Christian' is standard terminology even for Christians. Coupled with the curiously 'neutral' Stonetoss phrasings and the meme avatar which is linked to unsavory folks? Not thinking we're out of the woods

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#289: Aug 20th 2020 at 10:21:49 PM

[up]Plus the context of the author seeing Jesus Christ as God doesn't hold up because the god in the book referred to in the entry is that white-beard archetype of God, not Jesus. I just brought their claims up because I wanted to be fair, but still erring on the side of caution.

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#290: Aug 21st 2020 at 5:12:55 AM

Apologies for being too inept to find it myself but I've tried to find the general ROCEJ thread that's been mentioned and I have completely failed. Can anyone let me know where it is? It sounds interesting.

Also, while the general situation here requires mod approval, would it be okay for the time being for me (or someone else who is much better at this) to edit the Stonetoss entry on the Gag-per-Day Webcomics page? It's currently this:

"A bi-weekly strip making fun of both sides of the political aisle, slaughtering Sacred Cows left and right."

which I think is, er, extremely inaccurate, unless they're referring to Stonetoss' ability to mock people from all political backgrounds who think that the holocaust really happened.

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#291: Aug 21st 2020 at 5:20:16 AM

It's in Projects: Long-Term/Perpetual. Find the thread, click back a few pages and you'll find a big ol' debate clogging up the thread.

Edited by ccorb on Aug 21st 2020 at 8:20:53 AM

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#292: Aug 21st 2020 at 5:22:12 AM

[up][up]Sheesh... That is the kind of description you'd write if your actual goal was to get the comic to people who would not read it if they knew what it actually was.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Aug 21st 2020 at 5:22:36 AM

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#293: Aug 21st 2020 at 5:42:46 AM

Now that is a good example of how this work is nigh impossible to trope properly. That's blatantly lying about what's in the work and making it seem like a south park esqe makes fun of everyone instead of a hate screed.

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#294: Aug 21st 2020 at 5:52:58 AM

Alright, I think it's clear enough that Stonetoss is getting tossed overboard. I'm calling the crowner. Is it dewicked yet?

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#295: Aug 21st 2020 at 6:18:14 AM

Just dewicked it. You can cut the work page and the laconic.

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#296: Aug 21st 2020 at 6:28:05 AM

All done. The articles are cut, locked, and PRLC'ed. Is there anything left to do?

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#297: Aug 21st 2020 at 6:30:24 AM

What about my proposed notice?

  • Webcomic.Stonetoss: A webcomic which consisted only of alt-right views. Since there was no narrative and the creator tries to deny the comic being alt-right, it was very hard to trope neutrally without accidentally coming off as promoting hate speech, not to mention attracted unwanted attention from the creator, so the page was decided by the community to be cut and locked.

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#299: Aug 21st 2020 at 6:48:02 AM

Regarding the query on "gag a day comic"....yeah, can we make that a bit more accirate?

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Stonetoss's webcomic has caused quite a bit of controversy here. The main issue is if his content can be troped on this site without violating the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement, or falling into Creator Bashing. If we determine it can be, what actions should be taken to ensure that it is? Cleanup and locking are not mutually exclusive.

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