Legal Eagle

Started watching some of his videos recently. This was definitely an interesting subject, especially how space laws are related to train laws in that there was no precedent until it became a thing. I would have thought the closest analogy would be international territories like open ocean, and he even mentions the need for maritime law. I half expect Arrested Development jokes.

A related channel I found was Viva Frei, while he does a lot of personal family life stuff (which has become more rare) his "Law VLAWG" stuff is generally quite engaging.

Legal Eagle and Hbomberguy talk defamation.

To be honest, while I love his analysis of legal dramas, one thing that soured me on Legal Eagle was his analysis of the Captain Marvel deleted scene. Morally justified or not, he tries to make the case that she had a legitimate self-defense claim breaking his hand because he touched her map. If that is the law (and I've heard from others it isn't), if the law puts that little weight on escalation, the law ought to be changed. Then he tries to bolster his case by pointing out it was a Terminator 2: Judgment Day Shout-Out, but tenuously accepting the T-800 as a "good guy" rather than a Token Evil Teammate, he's certainly not a law-abiding citizen.

Edited by TwinBird on Sep 29th 2019 at 1:17:56 AM

I think that feeling reflects more on you than it does on Legal Eagle. So many people made Captain Marvel a symbol for the most hateful anti-women rhetoric on the Internet and tied themselves to that mast, such that any defense of the work became an insult. I have my own thoughts on the scene to offer, but is there really any point to restarting that argument?

That's just it, though; his show's not supposed to be about "symbols." Lest it "reflect on him," he comes to a bizarre interpretation of the law.

Edited by TwinBird on Sep 29th 2019 at 11:16:12 AM

The man in question was acting in a hostile, aggressive manner. The point is that the law is not clear that she was not acting in self-defense. Also, it's a deleted scene, and therefore non-canon. Given the reactions it caused, I can't blame Marvel. Pointing out that she was, in effect, a brainwashed soldier at that point in time hardly seems necessary, but I'll do it anyway.

Regardless, if that's the spot where you are going to draw your line, it says more about you than about the channel.

Edited by Fighteer on Sep 29th 2019 at 2:26:41 PM

So, I noticed that we have a thread for his videos. I saw the thumbnails for a few of them but they didn't really interest me at the time.

Should I take a look at them?

2 good starting videos are his take on the trial from the Seinfeld finale, and also his review of the Simpsons episode "The Day the Violence Died" (the most interesting aspect of that review being his comments that slimey lawyer Troy McClure has a couple Strawman Has a Point moments).

It seems like his "Real Lawyer Reacts" videos where he looks at fictional depictions of law and order in media is what gets the most positive response. When he starts discussing hypotheticals or real world politics is when the audience response becomes mixed.

I highly recommend his videos on Jurassic Park and My Cousin Vinny.

The Star Trek: The Next Generation S2E9 "The Measure of a Man" one was really good

That was a good one, though while I knew the writer was actually a criminal lawyer, apparently the rules surrounding Riker being the prosecution are based in real maritime protocol (you're out at sea or in a remote port, someone needs to fill positions), which is something Legal Eagle may not be fully familiar with.

Edit: Nevermind.

Edited by DeanCole on Oct 2nd 2019 at 4:51:10 AM

Legal Eagle is actually a good person, he can actually see where cases in films goes wrong, and also in his Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory video, he shows how many laws Wonka has broken.

I wish he covers The Purge series. In fact, I think he does it two parter:

Part one covering what kind of process it would realistically take to legislate and instate the Purge system, and what kind of constitutional snag it would hit.

Then Part two covering what is the most destructive or profitable crime you could get away under the limitations established by the serirs during every Purge night.

Edited by dRoy on Oct 23rd 2019 at 12:39:17 AM

I feel like him doing the first part would be pointless since I believe it's established the in-universe government is different than the US's.

He made several videos about series whose setting have different legal system from America (such as Ace Attorney series) so that shouldn't be a problem.

The The Film Theorists just did a video on what would be the most profitable crime you could doing during the The Purge it's organ harvesting

....I'll have to watch that video because I'm really curious how on earth he reached to that conclusion. I'll probably end up being convinced because I have very little legal knowledge.

Also, I want him to cover the film version of To Kill a Mockingbird.

I feel like that'd be cut and dry: he's innocent in the eyes of a modern not-racist court.

Y'know, I could see logic in that.

The problem with the Purge is that Purge Night is the worst possible day to commit a crime. Crime preys on the unsuspecting. Everyone suspects crime on Purge Nights. People spend the whole year setting up surveillance cams and hiring armed guards and building security defenses, all for the sake of killing the shit out of anybody who dares trespass on their property on this specific day.

Want to rob a bank? There's fifty machine guns pointed at you the moment you approach. Want to kill a celebrity or politician? They're rich enough to have a small army to deal with you. There's actually a movie about that one, but the premise of the movie is the politician in question foregoing insurmountable Rich People defenses to make a political point.

Spree killers absolutely wouldn't be out on Purge Night. If you want to shoot up a mall because you hate women, you want to do it when people are in the mall. Purge Night is the worst possible day to try and get a spree killing going.

The only crimes likely to be committed on Purge Night are crimes of passion, general rioting, and suicidal lapses in judgment by hormonal idiots that didn't realize the bank had an entire year to hire armed guards and install machine gun turrets.

That being said, the Purge Universe assures us that there would be no shortage of idiots in Payday masks wandering aimlessly around, hitting things with nail bats. Which is stupid, but that's how the Purge movies work. Just roving idiots swinging nail bats and machine guns around like enemy NPCs in an open-world shooter.

Those people are too stupid to live and, indeed, tend to get themselves killed during their efforts to menace the protagonists in various Purge movies. Which makes them, ironically, the perfect target for crime.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 28th 2019 at 8:11:01 AM

The New Founding Fathers probably wanted to decrease the number of the poor people.

Who actually ended up dying and decreasing, however, was probably the dumb people.

As I understand it, the intention is exactly to get the poor to cannibalize each other (figuratively speaking) since people who can afford security would be less likely to die. That plus some agents provocateur to get things started also happens to make excellent cover for straight-up political assassination.

And even then the Purge as intended doesn't work, from what I've read. The overwhelming majority of the poor just hunker down for the night. In response the NFF government sends out psychos for hire to kill as many of the poor and other undesirables as possible to get rid of people they don't like and keep up the pretense that the Purge is working.

Edited by Parable on Oct 28th 2019 at 7:48:33 AM

Now I want a movie where a group of poor people crowdfunds a mercenary group to hunt the government-funded mercenary groups that are killing people on Purge Night.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 28th 2019 at 8:56:26 AM