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123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#1: Jul 19th 2018 at 7:44:53 AM

Get ready to laugh in fear October 4th, 2019.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/joker-origin-pic-lands-fall-2019-release-date-1128203

A lot soon then expected, might as well make a thread about it as Comic con approaches.

I’m skeptical about it taking place in the eighties, but maybe it’ll grow on me when we see some of this movie.

As long as it doesn’t follow the path of Halle Barry’s Catwoman, it’ll be fine.

Edited by 123tbones on Jul 19th 2018 at 7:51:54 AM

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#2: Jul 19th 2018 at 9:00:07 AM

So it's a origin movie about the Joker, set in the 1980s?

... Welp, you guys ready for another adaptation of The Killing Joke? The last one went so well.

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#3: Jul 19th 2018 at 9:03:39 AM

For a chilling Joker origin story, I recommend Nightcrawler.

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#4: Jul 19th 2018 at 9:15:18 AM

[up][up] tbf the actual Killing Joke adaptation was pretty good, it was the clusterf*** with Barbara that dragged the whole thing down. That said, the Joker really doesn't need a true confirmed origin, in fact he works better without. TDK approach of telling multiple stories any one of which may be true or none of them is the closest we need to a Joker origin story.

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#5: Oct 20th 2018 at 2:57:01 AM

Ever wonder why I'm called 1upmushroom?

Because I bring threads like these back to life.

But in all seriousness, a lot has been revealed since this thread's last post.

For starters, we now know what this particular Joker will look like presumably before his very bad day. He's even given a name, Arthur Fleck (i.e. A. Fleck...wait, srsly?)

Not two days after the above photo hit, Todd Phillips released this short makeup test vid. It starts off with Joaquin Phoenix in his "Arthur Fleck" costume looking rather stoic as The Guess Who's Laughing plays. All the while, we get quick millisecond flashes of Phoenix in his Joker outfit being projected over Fleck. However, as the song reaches it's chorus, the flashes become more frequent as Fleck begins to smile. The video then ends with a closeup of Phoenix in full on Joker makeup.

Not to mention the leaked footage that's been roaming the web this past month or so. I won't link those since they're practically spoiling bits of the movie.

I have to say, when I first read the announcement that Todd Phillips was going direct a Joker origin story in the vein of Martin Scorsese's Taxi Driver, I was mostly indifferent. It sounded interesting, and I felt that Phillips' last outing made him a decent choice for directing this, but overall it was a movie I flat out didn't need centered around a character that was already overexposed.

But then I saw the makeup test video, along with some of the leaked footage, and I'm now excited for it!

Personally, I really dig the look of this Joker. To me, this strikes a perfect balance of "different, yet familiar". I like that he totally goes all in on the clown make up with the red nose, the painted on eyebrows, etc. I also appreciate that, so far, he isn't dressed in the traditional dark purple outfit. I don't particularly care for the fact that his makeup is smeared, that just invites comparisons towards Heath Ledger's iconic take.

But yeah, in case you couldn't tell, I'm extremely interested in this upcoming film.

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#6: Oct 20th 2018 at 12:34:28 PM

I was about to say, no one's made a thread for this yet? But yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic about this. I can already tell this Joker's probably going to be up there with the greats.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#7: Mar 23rd 2019 at 6:38:09 PM

I might have been too hard on this now that I rewatch that makeup video. It's definitely... different, but in a good way. My initial reaction was pure disgust with this and Batgirl being announced. I should have laughed. But I cried.

Because [your] love had passed me by.

You took me by surprise.

I didn't... reaaaaa-liiize....

that you were laughing

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#8: Apr 2nd 2019 at 12:29:13 PM

New poster just came out.

A first look is coming to CinemaCon today and we'll see it tomorrow.

To whet our appetite, here's a description of footage:

In the footage, Arthur talks with a social worker who only wants to help him. He walks alone through the streets. "My mother always tell me to smile and put on a happy face," he explains. "She told me I had a purpose." He works on the streets with signs, whirling them and trying to spread joy in a clown costume. It is stolen from him. When he chases them, they hit him with the sign and beat him in an alley. He is seen dancing with Zazie Beets, claiming the world is getting crazy. Bryan Tyree Henry is a nurse, seeming skeptic of him. He descended into a painted face, manipulating his lips into a Joker smile in the mirror with his fingers. Aboard a train in his costume, he belts out a creepy laugh and gets beat up by men in suits. "Gotham's lost its way," he said. "What kind of coward would do something that cold blooded," Thomas Wayne says on the TV. Arthur descends into insanity. Robert DeNiro is a performer on a stage. The Joker realizes his life is not a tragedy. It's a comedy. He is seen walking down the street with flowers in his hands. A hero shot of him in the full costume. He dances on stairs and the curtains close on him. October.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 2nd 2019 at 9:18:50 AM

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#12: Apr 3rd 2019 at 7:19:02 AM

Oh wow. I think I got a kick out of this movie's first trailer than I did with Venom's.

Like, wow. surprised

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#13: Apr 3rd 2019 at 8:56:32 AM

Looks like my thoughts about this being good were right on the money. Nice.

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#14: Apr 3rd 2019 at 9:28:18 AM

I'm a bit concerned about this romantizing the Joker and/or ableism regarding mental illness.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#15: Apr 3rd 2019 at 9:34:05 AM

The movie doesn't look like it's romanticizing anything.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#16: Apr 3rd 2019 at 9:34:40 AM

I was wrong. This doesn't look to be a bad movie so far.

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#17: Apr 3rd 2019 at 9:51:45 AM

Oooh I'm smiling, & its not even about a good joke.

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#19: Apr 3rd 2019 at 10:49:04 AM

[up]That’s a different movie because the Phoenix one is a Period Piece set in the 70’s.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#20: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:30:34 AM

Oh right. Forgot there was a second Joker movie because why?

Although, couldn't he picked a better time to mention that? Seriously.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#21: Apr 3rd 2019 at 11:33:02 AM

Who talks about their Joker movie when we just got a trailer for a completely separate one?

That’s just confusing.

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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#22: Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:44:44 PM

So this will be a Batman-less Joker movie? Intriguing…

I noticed that Arkham is now a "state hospital" and not an "Asylum for the criminally insane"… is that new (I'm not a comic reader)?

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#23: Apr 3rd 2019 at 12:46:08 PM

The person who made that tweet was joking.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#24: Apr 3rd 2019 at 1:00:17 PM

Honestly, that trailer doesn't do anything for me. It just seems too "normal". No comic book movie feeling at all.

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Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#25: Apr 3rd 2019 at 1:05:06 PM

That seems to be the point, since the Joker's probably the farthest from a superhero that you can get.

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