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Deadlock Clock: Oct 17th 2018 at 11:59:00 PM
randomtroper89 from The Fire Nation Since: Nov, 2010
#1: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:20:32 PM

I think trope has several problems. First of all, the idea, a hero commits torture, is rather chairsy. Secondly, the article is rather long and rambley, meaning the trope has a hard time describing itself.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#2: Jun 15th 2018 at 1:58:08 PM

I disagree, this is definitely a trope. While it is not mentioned, the scene from Film/Taken comes to mind where the hero of the story tortures someone for information, then leaves him to die.

The gist of the trope usually seems to be that Evil Justifies The Means.

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#3: Jun 23rd 2018 at 1:38:21 PM

Exalted Torturer is not more tropeworthy than a hypothetical trope named Exalted Murderer.

edited 23rd Jun '18 1:41:36 PM by MagBas

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#4: Jun 23rd 2018 at 1:58:05 PM

What was missing in Jack Bauer Interrogation Technique that requires this as a supertrope? And the title is awful. Well, to be fair, so is the title of JBIT, as it references a specific franchise that will not be in popular memory forever.

Even though it's not as exciting a title, I might go with something more prosaic, like Heroes Using Torture.

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StarformDCX Starform from Ontario Since: Jul, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#5: Jun 27th 2018 at 8:04:05 PM

Exalted Torturer is a character trope, JBIT is an action-taken-by-a-character trope. Admittedly it's a small distinction. A bigger distinction (and I think this is why the tropes are worth keeping distinct from each other) is that Exalted Torturer is about the work's stance on torture. Jack Bauer Interrogation Technique simply means "the heroes use torture'' whereas Exalted Torturer means "a character who uses torture, and the work portrays him or her as in the right for doing so." Exalted Torturer contains a value judgment.

Edited by StarformDCX on Jun 28th 2018 at 2:12:22 PM

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SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#6: Aug 24th 2018 at 11:34:44 PM

Clock is set.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#7: Aug 25th 2018 at 2:28:11 AM

I vote keep.

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#8: Aug 25th 2018 at 6:02:01 PM

The distinction between "used by the heroes (aka, the characters that the work treats as good)" and "used by the heroes and this is treated as good" is really small. I vote not to keep.

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#9: Oct 14th 2018 at 11:43:35 AM

Resetting clock.

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#10: Oct 18th 2018 at 9:51:05 AM

Clock expired; closing.

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