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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#1: Aug 27th 2017 at 8:43:43 AM

Voiceover Letter is when a character starts reading a letter and the voice cross fades to the voice of the letter's originator. What I noticed is that there are just as many examples where we hear a letter being read by the originator without the voice fading beforehand. This variant is not troped but it isn't so much different in narrative purpose and I wonder if this really asks for a different trope page or if both scenarios can be worked into one trope with the fading being a bonus point?

Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#2: Aug 27th 2017 at 2:17:06 PM

I would say that it is sufficiently flexible to cover cases where the whole thing is read by the writer.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#3: Aug 27th 2017 at 2:28:23 PM

Yeah, I don't think the meaning of the trope changes just because we don't hear the reader's voice. The important part is that we hear the writer's voice, which probably isn't physically possible in the scene.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#4: Aug 27th 2017 at 5:34:52 PM

Any idea how to rewrite the first paragraph to make the trope look less narrow?

PegasusKnightmare Since: Aug, 2016
#5: Aug 29th 2017 at 10:31:21 AM

Is the trope also broad enough to include journal entries as well as letters?

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#6: Aug 29th 2017 at 12:12:11 PM

This may be a Repair thread. Here's a first effort:

One reason a narration voiceover will be used in film/television is to convey what the characters are reading. This narration is usually in the voice of the person who wrote the text, although whomever is reading the text may fade in/out at the start/end of the message.

While named for letters being read by a second party, this trope covers any text that gets a voiceover from the author. Visually, we are often watching the reader for the Reaction Shot, the author while they write, or a flashback that the writing narrates the events of.

edited 29th Aug '17 12:20:00 PM by crazysamaritan

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#7: Aug 30th 2017 at 2:18:39 PM

^ The first sentence could use some improvement but otherwise this rewrite would get my vote. Must this go through Trope Description Improvement Drive or TRS?

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#8: Aug 30th 2017 at 3:35:18 PM

If we were just changing the description, it doesn't have to go through TDID. That thread is just a central location people can visit to provide input and make requests; it isn't a mandatory project (so far as I am aware). Whenever the trope description is Example as a Thesis, I get leery of the changes I want to make since I can't tell if I'm expanding the definition or not. Here's a second pass of Voiceover Letter:

The narration voiceover of what the on-screen characters are reading. This narration is usually in the voice of the person who wrote the text, although whomever is reading the text may fade in/out at the start/end of the message.

While named for letters being read by a second party, this trope covers any text that gets a voiceover from the author. These could be text messages, diary entries, or posted signs. Often the audience will not see the text in question, but shorter scripts may allow the whole thing to be shown briefly on the screen. Visually, we are often watching the reader for the Reaction Shot, the author while they write, or a flashback that the writing narrates the events of.

Compare Reading Foreign Signs Out Loud (for the methods of translating foreign language text shown onscreen) and Sounding It Out (for when the character who is reading the letter does so out loud). Often overlaps with other letter tropes, such as Epistolary Novel (for when one or more letters form a Framing Device for the story), and Epilogue Letter (for when the letter serves as summary/ending for a story).

I'm ambivalent about the the first pothole because it's the closest trope we have to the general "Nondiegetic Voice".

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#9: Aug 30th 2017 at 10:39:57 PM

I think it's a type of narration, or at least it can be. I don't think it's different from first person narration.

Writeup works for me.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#11: Sep 1st 2017 at 3:26:53 PM

Made the change.

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