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bitemytail Since: Dec, 2011
#26: Oct 17th 2017 at 10:34:35 AM

What about cases where the design of hardware is sound, but the execution is flawed?

Design was fine, execution was the problem.

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#27: Oct 17th 2017 at 12:28:50 PM

How is that even a response to what I said? Obviously the event you're talking about is engineering design.

Are you insisting that marketing design does not exist. The word "design" does not only mean "engineering."

Obviously we need an outside source since my point is apparently being ignored?

We are not talking about "Idiot Engineering" we're talking about "Idiot Design," which is far more general than just engineering design.

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bitemytail Since: Dec, 2011
#28: Oct 17th 2017 at 12:50:17 PM

By that logic, using definition 1 of 'design', we could just rename Idiot Programming to Idiot Design and be done with it.

Not sure why you're arguing with me. I'm agreeing with the point you originally raised.

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#29: Oct 17th 2017 at 7:53:54 PM

Don't be a dick. Potholing Won't Take "Yes" for an Answer shows that you're intentionally misreading me.

At the very least, it is not a charitable read of me. Obviously I am referencing the fact that design has so many definitions. And that I, as would most other people, think of the word "design" meaning "design" as opposed to "engineering."

Moreover, the point I originally made was here. "Advertising examples" somehow conveys "engineering" to you. That's fine, but not true and based on your own idiolect.

Then I asked this question about it being about hardware or design in general. The answer was that it's about design in general. You then twisted that to mean hardware specifically unless it's software. Which is contradictory. Obviously so.

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#30: Oct 18th 2017 at 4:38:20 AM

The Permanent Red Link Club page says that part of why the So Bad, It's Horrible page for software was cut was because Idiot Programming made it redundant, so it could be that whoever cut the Horrible page for software intended for Idiot Programming to replace it. The main reason this thread exists is because so many Idiot Programming examples have nothing to do with software.

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#31: Oct 18th 2017 at 5:04:14 AM

[up] If Idiot Programming is meant to be So Bad Its Horrible for software, that would make the title unclear since software can suck for reasons other than bad programming.

We may as well change the definition to "potentially useful software hindered by bad coding" and move the software that's inherently poorly designed to Idiot Design.

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#32: Oct 18th 2017 at 6:07:04 AM

Given that misuse is the other listed reason for cutting the So Bad It's Horrible page for software, I can't help but wonder why it wasn't just cleaned up instead of cut, maybe with that becoming the primary page for bad software instead of Idiot Programming. Most of the other cut Horrible pages at least have more serious problems listed as their deletion reasons (an exception being the page for cars being redundant with a non-Darth trope).

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#33: Oct 27th 2017 at 6:50:55 PM

The page is going to launch tomorrow if no one has any objections.

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#34: Oct 28th 2017 at 4:31:01 PM

And it's launched! I believe all misuse has been moved to Idiot Design, so this can be closed now.

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#35: Nov 24th 2017 at 6:44:32 PM

Okay then, time to close.

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