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Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#201: Aug 16th 2017 at 10:34:00 AM

Well, yeah having reasons to be bad character doesn't make him good one...

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#202: Aug 16th 2017 at 1:35:11 PM

Ooooh we can be petty? tongue

Well if so then if next episode is where Fran dies then I say good riddance. So far she is a very underwhelming & just plain unimpressive character. That fight with Mordred better be good & don't no one give me any nonsense about her being cute makes up for being a cardboard corpse cause simply being cute does not make you a good character. Even then I don't think she's that cute but hey I'm biased. tongue

I also dislike Sieg cause he's obviously gonna end up with Jeanne along with just being a rather boring charcter. Why can't we have Kairi & Mordred as the main characters?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#203: Aug 16th 2017 at 8:14:36 PM

Wondering, besides the fan favorites or Go-Lion and Mo-san, which characters do you like so far?

Seeing a lot of love on the interwebs for Fran being cute, Caules for being a legit nice guy.

Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#204: Aug 16th 2017 at 8:19:03 PM

I don't care about Fran, but Caules is good. I guess Fiore also work as character somehwow.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#205: Aug 16th 2017 at 8:42:29 PM

Fran's cute. Apart from her I think I'm only interested in Mordred. I know Karna and Semiramis get more interesting later but for now I just don't care.

Oh yeah and I'm trying to give Astolfo a chance. He's okay.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#206: Aug 16th 2017 at 10:15:34 PM

Fran, Mordred, and Astolfo are my favorites for being various types of cute. Plus Mordred and Fran's relationships with their Masters are nice too.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#207: Aug 16th 2017 at 10:25:44 PM

I like Avi, the Black Caster even though we haven't seen much of him cause I really like his look & his golem powers, Achilles cause he's Achilles so he has to be cool, Vlad's great, Shakespeare is pretty hilarious, Siegfried for his look & actions, Karna too where it also helps that I played Extella so I already know of him beforehand & Semi is pretty hot.

For the Masters..... well the priest is nicely mysterious & I respect glasses more for being a decent brother. That's it though, most of the Masters aren't that interesting really.

edited 16th Aug '17 10:27:40 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
mwisse Since: Apr, 2009
#208: Aug 17th 2017 at 11:02:57 AM

I find Fran more disturbing than cute to be honest. She sounds and acts too much like a bad stereotype of a entally disabled person.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#209: Aug 17th 2017 at 1:52:38 PM

Well, the only reason she isn't talking to people is because she doesn't find them worth the effort.

Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#210: Aug 17th 2017 at 2:05:53 PM

Well, her own creator found her retarded and violently psychotic, so...

edited 17th Aug '17 2:06:46 PM by Tenzen12

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#211: Aug 17th 2017 at 2:16:53 PM

To be fair that is how Frankenstein's Monster normally is. The creature is not well mentally due to the fact it is a patchwork abomination of corpses & lighting. Being chased by villagers with flaming torches did it no favor here. Its issues are normally played for horror & tragedy.

The difference here though is due to the fact Fran is an attractive female so its instead being played up as cuteness to increase the muh moe & waifu factor.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#212: Aug 17th 2017 at 2:19:29 PM

^ That's the movie version of the monster, yes. Fran seems more based on the book version.

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#213: Aug 17th 2017 at 2:20:48 PM

Berserkers tend to be mentally screwy yes.

Secret Signature
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#214: Aug 17th 2017 at 2:23:35 PM

[up] Mad Enhancement yo.

Though Fran's pretty chill compared to say Spartacus.

Now that guy is clearly off his rocker.

edited 17th Aug '17 2:24:05 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#215: Aug 17th 2017 at 2:37:18 PM

To be honest, I'm not sure why Victor thinks she's stupid or that she can't speak. She has to have asked him for a companion at some point because Caules already knows what her wish is. And since she's more based on the book version than the movie version, she should actually be quite chatty.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#216: Aug 17th 2017 at 2:54:34 PM

Wasn't it because she fell extremely in love with him with dissatisfied him so he abandoned the Adam & Eve plan?

Hmmh I can't believe I find myself forgetting this but it does make for interesting knowledge. Fran is not actually a gender-flip. Especially if you look at her attire which is clearly a wedding gown then she is actually the bride not the original creature. Its just in her backstory Frankenstein always wanted to make a couple so he made the women first & planned for the guy second.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#217: Aug 17th 2017 at 2:59:28 PM

At first, I think, but then she was like 'ok fuck you then buddy, just make me someone else to hang out with.' And then she chased him around probably killing all his relatives and stuff until they both died in the arctic.

Also, he was more disturbed by how she disemboweled a dog and tried to give it to him as a present. Something like that anyway.

edited 17th Aug '17 3:00:01 PM by Arha

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#218: Aug 17th 2017 at 3:44:00 PM

Holy shit man. surprised

Man Glasses better be careful.

I guess Vic thinks she's an idiot cause he doesn't like her cause of the shit she pulled. When you start disliking someone you gain an inclination to think less highly of them & thus gain more bias to think negatively of them.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#219: Aug 17th 2017 at 7:25:34 PM

To be honest, I'm not sure why Victor thinks she's stupid or that she can't speak.
I'm not sure how accurate either the Type Moon or Grand Order wikis are but according to the former she had the mind of a child. Both say that she couldn't express emotions though and that she had no sense of morals and that her killing a dog is what led to him disassembling and abandoning her. Apparently she was still alive and put herself back together and only then did she gain intelligence and the ability to display emotions by interacting with the outside world. Says she both hated and admired him and tracked him down to get him to build her a lover. He refused so she started killing people close to him to force him but he still refused and kept running until he died in the North Pole with Frank committing suicide shortly afterwards.

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Stop Killing My Titles
#220: Aug 21st 2017 at 5:15:22 AM

Ep's out.

Gyaru Priest is turning more and more OC. Yeah, I'm sure that your wish to "heal all humans" is credible with all the fire behind you and your Servant looking at you like you've just left a blood shower. And he has a katana now and Fran is probably so screwed.

Sieg does a noble thing and now has a Homunculus buddy. They're walking right into Astolfo's Hot Teacher Dominatrix Yandere Master though, probably.

Karna blocks otherworldy spikes with his abs. Of course. Spartacus is back for some OI action, probably just in time to engage whoever is left on the Red side (so Mordred).

Speaking of Moedred, she drives like a lunatic.

grah
Kimidori Since: Jul, 2012
#221: Aug 21st 2017 at 11:29:15 PM

just watched ep 6, 7 and 8 back to back, and I have to says that in the LN, Chiron almost killed Mondred twice, when he fall from the tower he made a single shot at Mondred chest that smashed through her armor, but it was thick enough to alter the path of the arrow and the arrow go to her shoulder instead of her heart. his Pankration smashed Mordred hard on the ground, made a crater around her, knocked her unconscious, and Mondred would have died if she didn't slashed Chiron's shoulder when Chiron was making the Pankration move on her, it made him unable to use his bow to finish off Mordred.

I hate how all Archer class servant's display of power have been heavily downplayed from the LN, like the Atalanta shot in ep 4 was suppose to blast Siegfreid through several trees and knock him unconscious instead of pinning him to a tree. or in this ep, a weak servant like Fran defend against Atalanta NP like that, and she didn't in the LN. A1 must hate archers or something.

edited 21st Aug '17 11:29:55 PM by Kimidori

NHunter from a certain asteroid with two towers Since: Jan, 2016
#222: Aug 21st 2017 at 11:52:23 PM

Being Lancer Archer is suffering.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#223: Aug 22nd 2017 at 12:11:34 AM

[up][up] Really?

Oh shit man that is fucked up thing to do to majorly change the fights. Very disappointing.

Recent episode was pretty good though. Very action packed & interesting moments like with Chiron & Achilles. Sieg's scene feel out of place though. Its like this random kid walking through the battlefield & everyone is just ignoring him.

Also why is Asto riding a griffon? Is that what he actually rides?

edited 22nd Aug '17 12:16:18 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
daltar The Maid from the fantasy of green. Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
The Maid
#224: Aug 22nd 2017 at 1:21:09 AM

Actually yes. That's the strongest mount he has, though the other one is a horse made of fire and hurricanes.

If I'm sure of something it's that I'm not sure of anything.
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#225: Aug 22nd 2017 at 1:34:50 AM

For some reason doesn't show up in Type Moon.

Hippogriff

Yeah, they were too on the nose with Kotomine


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