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Badass nice guy characters (even when they obviously​ have flaws & character development)= cliche?

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SeekerSS Since: Jul, 2013
#1: Jun 15th 2017 at 4:39:33 AM

I saw a character bashed simply because they're a nice guy who is a badass (regardless if they have flaws and/or decent character development) & the critic said that is cliche idea. The critic said to make it original, they must have "cool & fresh" trait like being aloof & kill every antagonist on the spot.

So, what do you think? I think the critic is entitled person who should be ingored on the spot.......

edited 15th Jun '17 4:43:50 AM by SeekerSS

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#2: Jun 15th 2017 at 5:08:37 AM

Can you actually describe the character so that we can see if what you say is true? You've given zero information on the character.

edited 15th Jun '17 5:08:47 AM by Ikedatakeshi

EternaMemoria To dream is my right from Somewhere far away Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
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#3: Jun 15th 2017 at 5:26:32 AM

[up][up] Taken outside of context, that seems immature on the critic's side, unless it is that kind of story where everyone kill their enemies on the spot.

And even then, the most typical image of the "badass" is of a brutal, relentless and rather unpolite character who will literally skin his enemy alive if pushed far enough, I think.

A more restrained person filling the "badass" role does not look like a cliche for me. But please, add context.

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#4: Jun 15th 2017 at 8:41:06 AM

[up][up][up][up]Watch out for the line between "cliche" and "universal tropes"

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Sharysa Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Jun 15th 2017 at 12:01:54 PM

Captain America is still going strong after fifty years, so I'm PRETTY sure "badass nice guys with flaws and character development" aren't going out of style very soon.

CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit Since: May, 2009
#6: Jun 15th 2017 at 12:20:21 PM

Honestly, OP, that piece of criticism sounds like something I might've given when I was, like, twelve and thought whiny, emo, angsty asshole characters were the height of maturity.

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