Thor: Ragnarok

I doubt that Asgard will be wholly destroyed. I imagine Loki likely sides with Thanos to save his people.

Also, I think Jormungandr showing up in the ultimate battle against Thanos far outranks moment 100th of "Hulk smash".

edited 5th Apr '18 4:30:45 PM by Gaon

If Jormungandr shows up and doesn't kill Thor you've wasted your Jormungandr and you only get the one.

The only thing that saved Thor during the Simonson run was that Loki and Hela were at curse purposes.

On one hand, I agree, on the other, I wish all Avengers but Thor and Natasha died so I'm a tad torn.

They already have a decaff ragnarok, ether you go big or you go home, is pretty simple.

edited 5th Apr '18 4:36:49 PM by unknowing

The comics have had like five ragnaroks

Thor broke the Ragnarok cycle and they still had another one

In one the aesir wore sunglasses and fought with machine guns

.....wat?. Like really what?

Yes, Ragnarok turns out to be a cyclical thing.

Much older meaner gods than the Asgardians have the Asgardians destroy each other so they can feast on the resulting conflict.

And I said Okaholma because after Thor killed those Super-Gods after Ragnarok, he rebirthed the Asgardians and Asgard in Broxton, Oklahoma.

Comics Everybody.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Broxton

Sign me up for a video game called Machine-gun Valhalla.

I enjoyed this movie in theater, I just gotta get it online so I can watch at home.

Loki Agent of Asgard◊ was a good book.◊

He's got a big gun,the biggest!

I'm watching Taika Watiti's dvd commentary and it is amazing

edited 27th May '18 2:50:13 AM by Nouct

Asgard's architecture was built with an eye towards not just edificial but personal aesthetic

Asgard used to have narrow doorways, before Hela killed everyone who owned one.

That honestly makes sense

You know I kind of like that Earth's Mightest Heroe's Avengers had Hela be addressed openly as Loki's daughter. Post-2011 it seems everything is trying to make it that Loki isn't Hela's father anymore. And I am one of the few who hates that fact, because I love their familial dynamic.

Does Hela remind anyone of Vergil from Devil May Cry?

• They're both siblings to the main hero.

• They're superior to the hero at first.

• They have the power of Spontaneous Weapon Creation.

• They're both obsessed with gaining the power of their fathers while ignoring their ideals.

• They're the main villains of the third entries of their series.

I'm watching on Netflix finally:

• That hammer-spin in the beginning
• Stephen Strange is kind of a dick. Maybe its just Rule of Funny at work, but all of the teleporting during his meeting with Thor was unnecessary. He doesn't do this while meeting with Stark and Banner in Infinity War, so why do it to Thor? He's also a doctor and, I would assume, would be above screwing with people for the hell of it.
• I can't believe Strange met Odin in-between films
• What happened to Jane Foster and why does the MCU keep poking fun at how she and Thor are split?
• So why exactly is Odin dying? Did he not get enough Odin-sleep?

Edited by Soble on Aug 30th 2018 at 7:25:44 AM

• That hammer-spin in the beginning
  • Awww yiss.
• Stephen Strange is kind of a dick. Maybe its just Rule of Funny at work, but all of the teleporting during his meeting with Thor was unnecessary. He doesn't do this while meeting with Stark and Banner in Infinity War, so why do it to Thor? He's also a doctor and, I would assume, would be above screwing with people for the hell of it.
  • I mean, he was a dick as a doctor. That was kind of a major thing. And he dicked people while we was training as a wizard. Plus, when dealing with a superpowerful alien you don't know if you can trust, it doesn't hurt to keep him on his toes. But mostly dickishness. Which is in character.
• I can't believe Strange met Odin in-between films
  • Did he? Given the use of a locator spell I thought he hadn't met him, just knew how to find him.
• What happened to Jane Foster and why does the MCU keep poking fun at how she and Thor are split?
  • They broke up. The fun poking probably has to do with the fact that the pairing was ridiculously maligned and despite being arguably the two best looking people in the MCU and both fine actors, there was somehow negative chemistry between them. Plus, she sort of represented most peoples' least favorite part of the Thor movies: The human supporting cast. Writing her out makes sense (especially since as AOU showed, writing around her not being there is just awkward).
• So why exactly is Odin dying? Did he not get enough Odin-sleep?
  • ... plot. I'll give you this one.

Edited by Larkmarn on Aug 30th 2018 at 10:29:28 AM

I guess. I haven't watched Doctor Strange in awhile and I guess I didn't pay as much attention as I thought. IIRC he was one of those typical "unfeeling" doctors, which set up his downfall when he suddenly lost his ability to be a surgeon and had to seek a magical solution. But I don't recall him explicitly screwing with people. And I guess I headcanon'd that his growth throughout Doctor Strange was him slowly becoming less of a dick.

Keeping Thor off-balance makes sense I guess.

Strange indicates that Odin didn't want to be disturbed. It seemed to me that they'd either spoken or had some kind of communication.

I've only watched the Thor films once, and yeah, I barely remember their relationship. She feels like the "Iris West/Lois Lane" of the MCU - the obligatory female love interest who the movie poster insists is more important than she actually is. She can't punch the bad guys, she can only partially fill the science role because there's another science character doing the important Hollywood science, and the role of "Muggle Cheerleader" can only take you so far. Lady Sif, Hawkeye, and Hela have made far stronger impressions than Jane has.

Even so, I figured what with Jane-Thor being a thing, and I really dislike the concept but even so, if they wanted to kill Thor off I could understand replacing him with her... maybe...

I figured with that being a thing they'd want to keep her around. The way they kept bringing this up I was getting the impression that the cast and crew had some kind of falling-out with Natalie Portman.

We can extrapolate that Odin has a similar connection to Asgard gives him power dealie as Hela. Plus he was really old and was stuck in a nursing home. He was already going to die eventually, from being so old, but being stranded on Earth hastened it

Not that he was particularly beaten up about it. He had minor death seeker tendencies since Frigga died so maybe it was just easier to let go and become sparkles

The thing with the teleporting seems to me more like Strange just got used to doing that around the house and didn't even notice Thor was bothered by it until they got to the lower floor.

Either way, Thor got the last laugh when he destroyed much of Strange's house and possessions recalling his 'umbrella'

• "Now just point me in the direction of whoever's ass I have to kick!"
• Willy Wonka music during the ride to the Grandmaster's palace? Really?
• Ah, so Hela's the God of Exposition it seems.
• Wait, there were two Tessaracts in Odin's treasure room. What? The first one was a blue cube. Hela started off saying "they're all fakes," and when she got to the first cube says, "this one's weak," and then when she gets to the bluer one, the real one, she goes, "that's interesting."
• People were telling me Kate Blanchett stole the show as Hela and I kept thinking this was an exaggeration but... she really is the scene-stealer here. She's got Loki's color scheme, Thor's cape, and more raw power than either of them.
  • Though I'm confused as to why she's "connected to Asgard" and yet in the power hieraarchy it seems to be Odin > Hela > Thor > Loki. Now Odin being top dog is expected but... isn't Thor also "connected to Asgard" being Odin's son, just as Hela is Odin's daughter?
• Also, if Odin was the only thing keeping Hela locked up then... did she literally only escape the moment Odin died? Where was that portal she entered Norway from connected to? It seemed like one that she just made - but then she needed the Bifrost to get to Asgard.
• "Piss off ghost!"

This movie is a riot.

Edited by Soble on Aug 30th 2018 at 9:15:16 AM

Hela is the first born, thus the true heir.

I guess in a mythic sense he wouldn't get that same connection. Or maybe he does have it but as the second born it and he just aren't as strong as Hela. She's got a head start.

I don't recall if its said anywhere but I figured that Odin tossed her into a pocket dimension because exiling his children is the only childcare he really knows. And metaphorically he was leaning on the door. When he died, she just swung the door open and sauntered out.

Edited by Bocaj on Aug 30th 2018 at 12:03:22 PM

IIRC, one of the "Tesseracts" is the Casket of Ancient Winters from the first Thor movie. It was the cube that shot ice that was taken from the Frost Giants during their war on Earth and Loki used to try to destroy Jotunheim. I can understand the confusion, but they're not related.