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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#26: Mar 17th 2017 at 6:01:13 PM

[up]The page you just linked is precisely about the generalization of always making bikers gang members.

Also, The Hell's Angels actually ARE scumbags that have been involved in everything from drug trafficking to the illegal slave trade. Thus the problem with stereotyping all bikers as being like them.

edited 17th Mar '17 6:01:49 PM by shoboni

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#27: Mar 17th 2017 at 6:53:25 PM

Contrary to public perception, most bikers are normal, law-abiding citizens. The American Motorcycle Association famously insisted that only one percent of motorcycle riders are troublemakers. Outlaw bikers quickly adopted the phrase "one percenter" as a badge of honor, choosing to see themselves as members of an exclusive elite. And even amongst one-percenter motorcycle clubs, only four have been designated by the FBI (and Canada's CIS) as actual organized criminal gangs: the Bandidos, Hells Angels, Outlaws, and Pagans.

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#28: Mar 17th 2017 at 7:00:23 PM

Topic is not Bikers...

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#29: Mar 17th 2017 at 8:10:18 PM

On topic I'm all for making it a useful note because I think notable, highly organized fandoms (of which Juggalos are one) are something worth using useful notes for.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#30: Mar 18th 2017 at 3:34:24 PM

I'm against it because the Juggalo fandom doesn't have much effect on creating fiction, which makes them outside the scope of this wiki.

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#31: Mar 18th 2017 at 5:04:14 PM

Fandom is a big part of media, and this wiki is about analyzing media.

It makes sense to have Useful Notes pages on prominent, organized fandoms to give people a quick primer.

edited 18th Mar '17 5:06:22 PM by shoboni

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#32: Mar 18th 2017 at 5:26:46 PM

So we're applying a notability rule to fandoms now? Where do I find the rules that tell me which fandoms need a Useful Notes page and which aren't allowed?

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#33: Mar 18th 2017 at 5:44:37 PM

There are some fandoms who are media-worthy enough that a UN page would be helpful...I don't even remotely consider Juggalos to be so.

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#34: Mar 18th 2017 at 5:54:27 PM

I'd say big enough the FBI mistook them for a gang counts as notable.

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#35: Mar 18th 2017 at 8:29:10 PM

Looking at the crowner, both are in the green, neither in consensus range.

I'll let this go a few more days. If it remains in this state, we may have to declare no action. Unless if someone can think of another option?

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#36: Mar 19th 2017 at 9:43:15 PM

This is sticking at deadlocked with nothing reaching the required 2:1 approval, we may have to call this one at "no action as of this time".

edited 19th Mar '17 9:44:03 PM by shoboni

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#37: Mar 20th 2017 at 8:28:36 AM

No action it is. Calling and closing.

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