Marvel's Luke Cage (Netflix series)

I would so watch The Night Nurse Mystery Hour.

Trust you? The only person I can trust is myself.

I've heard one theory that Claire will be the who brings the Defenders together. I like this theory.

edited 17th Oct '16 8:02:23 PM by tricksterson

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Well, so far she's the one character who links the four together, coupled with the not-so-subtle hint of her telling her mom that she exclusively wants to help supers.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.

Total 180' from where she was in Daredevil.

-doesn't want to get mixed up in all of Matt's craziness-

-gets mixed up in Jessica's craziness-

-actively pursues and even gets turned on by Luke's craziness-

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If her bosses at the hospital hadn't behaved like a bunch of pricks, she probably would have been happy to remain a "normal" nurse with some "abnormal" clients.

What Claire says and what she actually does are often two things...she might not want the trouble in her life, but a part of her just feels better stepping up. Plus, those shows are not just an origin story for the heroes, they have also been an origin story for her.

So I just got through binge watching Luke Cage today. I liked it overall. I do agree with the sentiment that the second half of the season does take a dip compared to the first half, but I ultimately ended up enjoying it more than both Jessica Jones and the Second Season of Daredevil.

Diamondback was such a stepdown from Cottonmouth though and the fact that Shades was Villain Suing it up made me want to bang my head against the wall.

I really wanted to like this show, but for me it seemed boring. It just didn't click. Maybe it's because the storyline is fairly traditional (the superhero takes on a local gang and tries to clean the neighborhood), maybe it's because I wasn't invested in the hero (I loved Luke in Jessica Jones, but here he seemed less likeable for some reason), maybe it's because the only characters I really cared for were Mariah and Shades (I generally dislike the shows where the villains are more interesting/likeable than the heroes, since the villains tend to lose anyway), maybe it's because the soundtrack is not my cup of tea (I'm not saying it's not good, it's just that I generally prefer different music styles). My favorite moment in the whole season was Mariah snapping in episode 7.
Also, maybe it's just me, but I don't share this universal love for Claire. Remember the episode when they tried to save the corrupt cop? Well, I just kept screaming "Take your phone and call Jessica and Matt!" at the screen. I feel the Netflix shows have the same problem the MCU movies have reached a long time ago: every time something bad happens to one of the heroes, the audience keeps asking "Why don't you just call the other Avengers/Defenders?". And try as I might, I felt no chemistry between Claire and Luke.
And one more thing: hey, Luke, what's with the "Unlike you I've never killed someone" speech? I mean, should Luke be so proud of it when Jessica had to physically stop him from murdering an innocent bus driver at one point?
So yeah... Not a bad show, but it's not to my liking. Still hyped up for Iron Fist though.

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-takes off earrings-

I agree only in that the show declined once Cottommouth was killed.

Wasn't that when Kilgrave brainwashed him?

They fleshed him out and the story centered on him rather than Jessica? :p

edited 6th Dec '16 6:27:44 AM by Soble

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No, he genuinely thought that the bus driver killed his wife, but it turned out that she was dead before the bus hit her.

Luke Cage is official for Season 2.

Don't care much for Luke either, because he falls on the wrong side certain problems with heroes/vigilantes to me.

smh at the lack of love for Luke, but that's probably my African American roots talking. So yea, finished the series...after months of no Netflix or credible online sources. I do agree Cottonmouth was a much better antagonist.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

Eh, I dig Luke. I'm probably a little biased but I liked him more than Matt. Matt was the origin of his own problems. Luke didn't want to be a hero to begin with. Jessica was an Iron Woobie.

Though to be honest I'd argue their antagonists/supporting cast were more interesting than any of them.

edited 4th Mar '17 3:14:53 PM by Soble

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This was a good show. Of the protagonists, I probably like Jessica the most, and I think her show has the most compelling seasonal arc. But Luke's just such a fundamentally decent guy, and actually the most unironically superheroic character in the MCU by the end of this series, and I really liked that. LC's also got the best overall cast of the three— Mariah, Cottonmouth, Pop, Claire, Misty, Shades, even Scarf, they're all great, and I think I'd even like Diamondback if he were on a different, more heightened show.

It's still hard to top Fisk and Punisher or those long oners in Daredevil, though. For me, if you were only going to watch one MCU Netflix series, those might be enough to get my nod.

edited 5th Mar '17 9:10:22 AM by Unsung

I wonder if we'll be seeing Bullseye soon.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

I'd love to see him provided he doesn't start killing off the female supporting cast.

I'd also like to see Echo too, given that her fights with Matt are inherently cool and her backstory could tie into making Matt be more careful with human life.

Well, Elektra already died and is going to back, so there's that. I would, however, enjoy a reversal of sorts, where a resurrected Elektra gets the better of Bullseye.

I do agree about Echo, especially since the parts of her that were very similar to Elektra were actually not used for Elektra in the show (her father's murder blamed on Daredevil).

Only half-joking, I want to see this scene somewhere in the MCU.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

I also like Jessica the best. She also has the best supporting cast overall. Luke is okay, but I like his show more for its style and its attempt to examine the concept of betrayal than for the narrative execution, there is a lot which bothers me about it.

Thus said, one of the things which bothered me the both, meaning the phoney arguments Mariah uses during the rally and how the mob is following her screwed up logic has become way more believable recently.....

It would actually be super nice to have a surrender in a superhero show for once, just have the bad guy surrender once the hero shows up as they know they can't win a fight.

edited 5th Mar '17 6:43:03 AM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

Punisher sort of surrendered.

Eh, watching villains get the crap knocked out of them is more fun.

Curbstomp battles are for shows like Supergirl and Flash.

edited 5th Mar '17 6:59:13 AM by Soble

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I loved Luke Cage's supporting cast the best. I just felt like LC developed its secondary and tertiary characters better, and it makes sense that it would develop them more than Daredevil and Jessica Jones. Mostly because Matt and Jessica are loners. Luke, on the other hand, accidentally ends up adopting a whole neighborhood.

Trust you? The only person I can trust is myself.

One of my favourite things about Luke Cage is how well it depicts the relationship between a community and both its heroes and villains, and how that line can become blurred. The people who get taken in by Mariah's rhetoric, the cops who come after Luke throughout the series (most of them), they're not bad people— it's just that, quaint as the sentiment might be, it's not easy to tell the good guys and bad guys apart from ground level. We see how Mariah's good intentions are warped and corrupted by her association with Cornell, and we see how Cornell tries to feign a certain nobility in his way but can't quite sustain the facade in the treacherous environment he creates. And we see how Mama Mabel had a hand in creating them both, even while protecting her neighbourhood, her employees, and her family.

It's complex in all the ways Diamondback wasn't. That said, the way the whole neighbourhood comes together to watch Luke and Diamondback duke it out in the street, that's exactly the sense of connection between a community and its heroes that I'm talking about.

Also, not joking at all, I really hope when Bullseye shows up he kills someone with an M&M.

Don't think I'm smart enough to explain my issue with this.