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#1: Apr 25th 2016 at 11:37:39 AM

Kickstarter and announcement just launched

New FPS from id Software alum John Romero and Adrian Carmack, Blackroom is a throwback to shooters of yore, a violent and fast past take on the future of VR.

Weirdly enough, it's a non-VR Gane set in a Second Life esque VR world which is a bit weird, but heh, it seems neat at least.

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#2: Apr 25th 2016 at 11:45:26 AM

Just yesterday I was thinking about Romero and his bitch-making ways. I hope this doesn't become another Daikatana.

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#3: Apr 25th 2016 at 11:49:26 AM

[up]I mean, for what its worth the whole "make you his bitch" thing has been an Old Shame for a decade now, and he's deliberately not using it in the promos for this at all (on the Kickstarter FAQ, his answer to "are you gonna make me your bitch" is just "let's just focus on making a game")

I just added it to the title because I felt like it waii

Honestly on a more serious note, I dunno about this. Romero hasn't been involved with much at all recently besides the vaporwave Serenity and that furry Farmville clone that's been shut down for about three years now.

And let's be honest, even the furries only gave a shit about that so they could play as a female dog named "John Romero's Bitch"

edited 25th Apr '16 11:51:29 AM by RoboZombie

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#4: Apr 25th 2016 at 11:53:28 AM

You're going to be doing this a lot aren't you

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#5: Apr 25th 2016 at 11:59:38 AM

No,he's not making anyone his bitch.

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#7: Apr 25th 2016 at 3:18:55 PM

It's off to a relatively slow start, The question is, Has Romero learned form Daikatana?

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#9: Apr 25th 2016 at 6:46:35 PM

I'm pretty sure Romero's learn from his mistakes. I hope that this new game he's making can help him get back some respect.

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#10: Apr 26th 2016 at 6:29:40 AM

I never played Daikatana so I don't hate Romero as much as some of you may do, if at all actually.

I hope this game is a success.

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#11: Apr 26th 2016 at 6:55:43 AM

I only know about the infamous ad campaign from this website, because I'm 23.

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#12: Apr 26th 2016 at 7:03:28 AM

I remember those days well, I have old issues of PC Gamer with the bloody ad in them.

Hell, honestly, I wouldn't have included the "make you his bitch" thing in the topic title unless he was pulling the old rock star arrogance again.

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#13: Apr 26th 2016 at 8:39:06 AM

Romero definitely seems to have learned. From the above article:

"I knew it was risky, and I didn't want to do it. It didn't make sense. I mean, there's the whole culture of smack talk that goes with games and especially the FPSs, and that was something I was known for," Romero tells Gamesauce magazine.

"You know, I never wanted to make you my bitch, not you, not them, not any of the other players and, most importantly, not any of my fans. Up until that ad, I felt I had a great relationship with the gamer and the game development community and that ad changed everything... I regret it and I apologize for it."

"I didn't [stop it] and I'm sorry for that,"

edited 26th Apr '16 8:39:24 AM by TobiasDrake

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#14: Apr 26th 2016 at 8:45:34 AM

For whatever faults you may want to assign Romero, yeah, he owns his mistake with that ad, and he does seem more humble than he was in the Ion Storm days. I mean, when your name is front and center on one of your industry's biggest fiascoes, one that's practically a how-to primer on what not to do during development, you have to develop a heaping helping of humility if you want to keep going in said industry.

That said, for all that his arrogance was a bit over the top back then, I can think of a few other traits (ones like his mercurial nature - how many engine shifts did the game get?) that would be more important to have tamed if this is to turn out well.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#15: Apr 26th 2016 at 9:03:46 AM

He's been quietly involved with mobile stuff in the last few years, working with his wife Brenda Romero, nee Brathwaite, who has a long history as a dev herself. And the feeling I got from having hung around IGDA-connected circles in the past is that his peers have mostly let Daikatana rest in the past other than as a cautionary tale to be learned from...and they are a very reputation-oriented bunch, such that if you tank your respect with them, they won't want to work with you again and will tell other people as much.

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#16: Apr 26th 2016 at 9:10:52 AM

[up]So what you're saying is by having them break their patterns in his case, he made them his bitch.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#17: Apr 26th 2016 at 9:41:52 AM

That makes no sense as a response even as a joke. :P

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#19: Apr 26th 2016 at 12:06:51 PM

John Romero is about to make you his pitch. tongue

edited 27th Apr '16 12:37:10 PM by Psyclone

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#21: Apr 26th 2016 at 3:45:47 PM

Looks like Romero just put out another new Doom level after the one he did last year

I just want to clarify, I know the "bitch making" thing has been an Old Shame for Romero for a long time now, and I really only put it in the thread title for thr sake of dank memery. If the mods feel this is a bit misleading (since Romero isn't going about trying to make you his bitch) thdn they can rename the thread to something else like "Blackroom: New game by John Romero" but I'd advocate keeping the meme.

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#22: Apr 26th 2016 at 3:56:52 PM

If they must change it, I nominate the subtitle becomes Psyclone's god-tier pun.

Psyclone Since: Jan, 2001
#23: Apr 26th 2016 at 10:57:49 PM

(For the record I did not come up with it myself: I heard it from someone who in turn got it from a Rock Paper Shotgun comment)

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#24: Apr 27th 2016 at 12:55:35 PM

I'm more concerned about "Design is Law" than the sodomy-threatening ad. Has Romero learned how to manage a team, listen to his subordinates and meet deadlines? That'll determine whether he can pull out a bitchin' game.


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