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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#1: Apr 22nd 2016 at 7:13:14 AM

This suggestion tanked in the Image Suggestion crowner. Any other ideas?

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#2: Apr 22nd 2016 at 9:00:55 AM

Something from W.I.T.C.H.? Can't find an English version, though.

DeisTheAlcano Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#3: Apr 23rd 2016 at 5:21:20 PM

[up]Do you happen know from wich issue is it?

edited 23rd Apr '16 5:21:30 PM by DeisTheAlcano

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#4: Apr 23rd 2016 at 6:15:13 PM

Unfortunately no. The wikia page I got it from links to a Deviant Art entry, which links to a blog post that simply compiles transformation sequences from the work without mentioning which issue they're from.

edited 23rd Apr '16 6:18:14 PM by Adept

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#5: Apr 26th 2016 at 12:44:51 AM

^^^ I like the fact that they're announcing their respective elements—always adds to clarity.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#6: Apr 26th 2016 at 3:02:56 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/four_element_ensemble.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/four_element_ensemble1.jpg

edited 12th May '16 3:12:30 PM by eroock

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#7: Apr 26th 2016 at 6:33:05 AM

[up] I'd be fine with that take.

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#8: Apr 26th 2016 at 2:21:24 PM

[up][up]Well, I think the elements look clear enough, so that might not be necessary.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#9: Apr 26th 2016 at 7:22:24 PM

I see 5 people, this is a 4 person trope.

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#10: Apr 26th 2016 at 10:57:55 PM

[up]Not necessarily. The core of the trope is that each of the ensemble represents classical elements, and while it's typically only 4 (fire, earth, wind, water), it's not limited to this number. The description mentions that the team may include a fifth element (lightning, aether, etc.), usually serving as The Heart.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#11: Apr 26th 2016 at 11:56:42 PM

It really shouldn't be, the trope is heavily related to the Four-Temperament Ensemble. It should not be a group of 5 unless it is a Sixth Ranger situation like Sailor Moon.

A Five Element Ensemble including The Heart is something different.

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#12: Apr 27th 2016 at 1:11:07 AM

I think you're reading into the trope name way too far. There's no reason why this trope has to be dependent to Four-Temperament Ensemble.

The description say that the two may correspond, but both the write-up of the trope and the examples emphasize more about the fact that each member of a group/ensemble represent a specific Elemental Powers that differ from each other, rather than the actual numbers of the ensemble.

edited 27th Apr '16 1:14:24 AM by Adept

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#13: May 4th 2016 at 9:25:02 AM

^ I wonder if that kind of literalism is the reason why the suggestion in the crowner was downvoted.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#14: May 12th 2016 at 11:15:59 AM

Bump. Other thoughts or suggestions?

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#15: May 13th 2016 at 7:13:43 AM

I see eroock edited in the English phrases in the meantime. I'm good with that version.

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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#16: May 13th 2016 at 2:43:12 PM

This is a good option, and has noted it doesn't detract from the trope definition.

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#17: May 13th 2016 at 4:17:49 PM

@13: I think the Avatar suggestion got downvoted because at wiki size, the pic doesn't actually show the elemental powers as clearly. I can only see the fire, while the rest looks like they're just posing.

And [tup] for the English version.

edited 14th May '16 2:17:46 AM by Adept

DeisTheAlcano Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#18: May 13th 2016 at 4:22:56 PM

I agree, the image from WITCH clearly shows each element and also that the trope is flexible.

edited 14th May '16 8:36:23 AM by DeisTheAlcano

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rafi Since: Jun, 2014
#20: May 14th 2016 at 3:40:38 AM

[tup]6.2

edited 14th May '16 3:40:51 AM by rafi

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#21: May 14th 2016 at 8:54:10 AM

6.2 will do me.

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#22: May 14th 2016 at 6:58:36 PM

6.2 [tup]

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#23: May 14th 2016 at 8:06:58 PM

Good enough; it's up and tagged. Caption?

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#24: May 15th 2016 at 12:10:18 AM

Hmm, just noticed that Elemental Powers has the same team illustrating the page. I think we should try to find a replacement there that places less emphasis on the Ensemble aspect.

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