Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Jyn is the secret child of Obi-Wan Kenobi. At the end of the movie she meets Luke and falls in love thus becoming Rey's future mother.

Jyn is actually Kylo Ren and Rey's daughter from the Bad future.

If Star Wars ever has time travel then I fucking quit.

This is why I hope that if Rey's mother is going to show up in the movies, it's Laura Dern's character or something, and not someone who they're just going to fridge offscreen for drama's sake.

I would be more put off by any implication of Rey and Kylo Ren having a child than time travel. At least time travel is a Sci-Fi element.

edited 9th Apr '16 7:12:24 PM by Shadao

Jyn is actually Kylo Ren and Kylo Ren's mother. Kylo traveled to the past to impregnate himself so that he could be born.

edited 9th Apr '16 8:00:10 PM by CrimsonZephyr

The film will end with Kylo Jyn asking who all you zombies are.

(Thank you, thread, for making me snort out my ice cream. My nostrils are very uncomfortable now.)

My guess is that there will be a triple cross or something. We see in the trailer that the main character and possibly other rebels as well have dressed up as Imperials, probably to get the plans.

And then in the end we find out that some of the Rebels, maybe even the main character herself, are The Mole or really did betray them to the Empire (and were either Rewarded as a Traitor Deserves or, for some wonderful Dramatic Irony, were promoted and given a job on the Death Star itself just a few days before the thing explodes).

Either way, I agree that this movie is probably going to end bleak, but with lots of hope. Everyone dying, but the plans getting to where they need to be - with the audience knowing that it will lead to the Empire's first major defeat - makes a lot of sense.

Donnie Yen as a former Royal Guard would be pretty neat. Would also explain Kung Fu.

To be clear, my hypothesis that Jyn Erso might be Rey's mother doesn't technically require Luke Skywalker (or any known Jedi) to be her father.

I also think that if they go down this route, Jyn Erso should still be alive during the ST-era. This is mostly just because if she survives the events of Rogue One, they shouldn't have her then have her death established off-screen.

Unless Jyn fathered Rey with Luke, I'm not really invested in her life after this film.

I honestly do not think the accent should be any indication. British accents have always been linked to characters with Imperial roots in SW.

Now THIS is a Star Wars story I can get into. There might be Force users involved, but they aren't the fucking center of attention. I really am starting to feel we need fewer stories about "special" people who stand out above all the others. Europe and North America didn't spend centuries putting down Royalty like the dogs they were just to have our popular media swamped with the fuckers.

Either give everyone super abilities, or phase the stupid things out. I'd be happy with either.

Dollars to rubles that there will at least be hints of Jyn having some Force potential, just to keep the fire going. Though in general, I'm more concerned about the trailer making the film look like a Hunger Games story in the GFFA.

I'm also interested to see any Imperials with actual personality and motivation beyond card-carrying villainy. There's a reason whenever a new Imperial character is announced, the immediate question is "Is it Thrawn?" or at least and expy thereof. If the story really steps away from the Force-users, the perennial excuse of the Dark Side should also be avoided.

I was thinking more The Dirty Dozen and those other war films that have a colorful cast come together for one mission. With the likely body count being as high as The Dirty Dozen.

edited 10th Apr '16 7:53:36 AM by Memers

Let's just say that when the initial announcements promised a lower deck experience with the feel of a war movie, I was picturing something closer to Republic Commando. That "I rebel" line alone would make James Dean cringe - that sort of attitude makes the conflict feel less like a struggle to overthrow tyranny and rebuild a benevolent government, and more like generic anti-establishment angst for its own sake, the fodder of far too many YA novels already.

Even if I would agree with that, it still doesn't sound anything like the Hunger Games.

I have to say while I've never really gotten into SW this one has me excited. I guess like some others it's because it's a new type of Star Wars movie.

I'm not getting much "The Hungers Games" from this, aside from having a female youngish hero (and Felicity is in her 30's, she just looks younger). I'm seeing elements from other war films though (which isn't surprising since some of the people working on this also worked on films like Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, and Zero Dark Thirty). And I agree that there are vibes of The Dirty Dozen here as well (ragtag team sent on a near-impossible mission behind enemy lines, and most of them will likely be dead by the end of the film).

And I have no issue with the "I rebel" line, it's basically just a Han Solo-ish "I don't give a crap" type of sarcasm. Corny, perhaps, but then again corny dialogue and SW have always gone together like peanut butter and jelly.

edited 10th Apr '16 8:58:25 AM by Punisher286

If you squint and tilt your head slightly to the left, Jyn Erso kinda looks like she could be Katniss' alternate universe cousin.

My criticisms of the trailer remain the same. Jyn's "I rebel" line being bland and so-so, everything Forest Whitaker says is unnecessarily ham stringed by a weird accent, and the alarm sound just annoys.

See if my theory that Forest is playing some kind of PTSD-suffering/psychologically messed-up war vet, than that could actually fit (also as a guy who defends Ian Mc Diarmid dialing up the haminess to like, 35, in ROTS, that also doesn't bother me in SW, nor unusual accents).

And I actually found the alarm sound kind of neat (especially since it's the same alarm that Imperial ships/The DS use, which fits in with the "heist" idea as well).

edited 10th Apr '16 9:20:41 AM by Punisher286

Explanations don't really make the lines sound any less silly.