Tyranny

Pillars had a really great ending. If you feel like just dropping all the side quests and making a straight shot for the ending, you might get back into it.

A big city in the Bronze Age was like 20,000 people. That works out to about the same percentage (0.5%) as current US armed forces to the national population, if my lazy arts major math means anything, which I wouldn't count on. Still, you get the idea.

edited 7th Sep '16 3:37:58 PM by Unsung

It's also kinda funny the article describes the skirmisher Crescent Runners as the greek hoplites when that's what the Stoneshields sound like. Sounds like they must of took the term hoplite at face value.

I noticed that our wiki page for Tyranny refers to Kyros as female, with one of the edit reasons stating that a recent dev diary confirmed that Kyros is female. Anyone know if this is true?

Yeah, but even in the Bronze Age Greek armies and whatnot still had at least several hundred people, if not several thousand.

Then again their bronze was only in their swords and shields and whatnot, not their armor.

go back one page to the video called dev diary 1 making a world

edited 7th Sep '16 3:40:02 PM by booklord

'One other interesting bit of trivia revealed in the dev diary by lead level designer Constant Gaw: Kyros the Overlord, the iron-fisted conqueror of the world whose will and whim you enforce as a Fatebinder, is in fact a woman.'

Well forgive me if I'm being confused after Kyros is being referred to as a man in every single other piece of media. Not to mention Warlord, not Warlady.

edited 7th Sep '16 3:41:01 PM by theLibrarian

Classical Greece (as seen in 300) had armies in the tens of thousands, but their Iron Age started relatively early. 1200 BC or so.

Yeah, I suspect it's deliberate on their part. I had assumed the same thing until today, in fact, since I wasn't caught up on this thread.

edited 7th Sep '16 3:43:22 PM by Unsung

I didn't mean to make it sound like I was annoyed

Yeah, it seems like that in the Creating a World video in the page. At this point, I'd go with not taking the topic too seriously at the moment, who knows.

Quite true, but the Greeks did uniquely have their population at the "citizen" rank have some degree of pre-emptive training before war broke out. Without such a system in place, particularly useful armies when you need them would definitely be smaller.

I'm just trying to think stuff up though, could absolutely just be Writers Cannot Do Math.

edited 7th Sep '16 3:48:07 PM by VutherA

Plus Alexander the Great's initial army was around 7,000 or 10,000 or so, at least at its Macedonian core.

Coz Warlady is not a word? It's Warlord even if the person is female. Ditto for Overlord (Try finding either Warlady or Overlady in the Oxford dictionary).

Hm, they do say the majority of Kyros' opposing nations were like 100 at best. Perhaps the world absolutely did have examples of numbers more to our expectations, just most of them weren't (Not everyone's got the forces of Alex the Great, eh?) and got swept aside.

Alexander is far more recent. We're talking 350 BC. By that point steel was fairly common. Iron Age is prehistoric. By Alexander's time, certain parts of Europe, including Greece, have smelted Iron for a thousand years.

edited 7th Sep '16 3:57:50 PM by Ghilz

The historical age we're looking at is probably (comparatively) much earlier than Alexander's conquests or the Persian invasion of Greece. If it's before the widespread adoption of iron, then we're probably talking a few hundred, maybe even nearly a thousand years before. Which would explain the much smaller armies and populations, and fit right in with iron being new and rare, and steel being completely unknown.

All speculation for now, of course. The art style including— is that scale mail? —seems anachronistic, but I'm no expert.

There you go, then.

edited 7th Sep '16 4:09:33 PM by Unsung

Then if bronze is so hard to work with why don't they save it for swords and spears and arrows and just fight in leather instead?

It's still a big advantage over leather as armour goes. It's just a matter of conserving what you have, and what you can produce in a timely fashion.

The article goes into it. It's not so much that bronze is harder to work, but it's an alloy, so you need some other metal in addition to the copper. With iron, you just need iron.

edited 7th Sep '16 4:15:53 PM by Unsung

Well, theLibrarian's point isn't without cause even considering that. Pretty sure the Assyrian Empire using iron for weapons before the others and fighting against Egypt was a notable example of the logistical advantage of iron, and Egypt's armies were definitely in the thousands.

They sorta did, actually. Apparently, the Greek hoplite's armour went from a solid bronze breastplate later on to something made of linen.

Relevant

Coz the guy in bronze is going to murder all the guys in leather and take their stuff. and throw it away. Coz it's rubbish.

;-P

edited 7th Sep '16 4:23:59 PM by Ghilz

https://blog.tyrannygame.com/2016/09/07/dev-diary-9-beasts-and-bane/

New Dev blog

I honestly didn't expect troll people.

That's just how the trolls like it.

Companion No. 4

Looks like she really hates Kyros. That'll be interesting.

Heh. Eb.

Release date confirmed for November 10th.