Studious Girl
-doesn't have a car-
-is frequently out that late-
Man I've been spoiled by a subway system that allows me to ride at any unholy hour of the night
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
In Atlanta, you either:
- Take a car/ Zip car
- Related-ride with friends
- Walk back (Not that crazy. It's three hours at the most. The city—or rather the part of the city where the most popular venues are—isn't that big by diameter...)
- Make sure you're event's near a train station (those do go pretty late. It's the buses that stop before midnight all too often).
- Go Uber
edited 6th Sep '17 12:43:54 PM by CenturyEye
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A procrastination in of itself
In London and I think other UK cities the system is simply reduced, to down entirely. So you get Night buses but you may have to wait some time, national rail trains aren't running and the tube is only running Friday and Saturday nights with a less frequent service (trains every ten minutes) and only on certain lines.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
A procrastination in of itself
Tubes are normally every two minutes in London, the night tube is every ten minutes. Actually it might be every twenty, can't remember exactly.
Trains are stopped completely, as are most tube lines (including the light railway, the tram service and the overground (which is not the same thing as the trains)).
edited 6th Sep '17 1:59:06 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Studious Girl
Essentially that's the way NY too, but everything still runs. Wait times are longer when you're off-peak. 3 AM being extremely off-peak. You also have to deal with a lot of service changes at night, since that's when they do most of the work on the subways.
I couldn't tell you what the wait time difference is, since the NYC subway doesn't run on anything resembling a schedule 
I'd say 20 minutes at most though for subways. The wait for busses being much longer.
Commuting at night isn't uncommon in NYC. We are literally famous for never sleeping
edited 6th Sep '17 2:01:14 PM by Cailleach
A procrastination in of itself
See off peak has a specific meaning in the UK, for rail services it generally refers to trains that get to their destination after 9am/trains on weekends (so aren't commuter trains) and for the tube it refers to all tube journeys outside of main commuter times. Off peak journeys are cheaper than peak time ones.
London is going more 24 hour, the night tube has helped a lot for people in the bar trade in particular.
edited 6th Sep '17 2:02:06 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Jupiterian Local
Worth noting that London and New York are two of the very few cities that have 24-hour subway service. They're the exception, not the rule — but they're also what people think of when they think of subway systems, so a lot of people don't realize just how unusual subway systems that operate 24 hours a day are.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
I do - the one here closes at midnight on weekdays.
edited 7th Sep '17 6:38:39 AM by PhysicalStamina
A procrastination in of itself
Yeah and it's worth noting that London going 24 hours is very new, it's only done at weekends and even that only started last year. This time last year you couldn't get a tube past half 12 and you still can't 5 days a week.
What London has done 24 hours for years is busses, London night buses have been a thing for as long as I can remember.
edited 7th Sep '17 8:56:40 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Paris has night buses, too. The subway closes overnight, I think sometimes between midnight and 1, until 5 or 6.
Oh, bother.
Uber attacked over pattern of ignoring police and victims before London ban
Lt Brian South told the Guardian that in more than 15 years on the job, he had never seen anyone so brazenly defy a judge’s order for records. A prosecutor testified that Uber was actively preventing law enforcement from protecting riders from violence, and a judge attacked the ride-share corporation for a “horrific” pattern of ignoring police, describing its typical response as “give as little as possible, be as uncooperative as possible”.
Man, Uber just keeps giving me more and more reasons to despise them.
Uber threatens to leave Quebec in protest at new rules for drivers
The new rule btw is that Uber drivers need at least 35 hours of training — the same as cab drivers in the province — instead of 20 hours.
The Montreal mayor's response to this was gold.
edited 27th Sep '17 7:53:51 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
Malaysia has imposed vehicle inspection, Social Security Organization contribution of income and Land Public Transportation Commission registration requirement to Uber drivers yet the threat of pulling out isn't there. I wondered why....
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
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Well...
These arrangements may have influenced lawmakers here, Bloomberg stated, as less than a year later, the government began legalising “e-hailing” services like Uber, and even allocated a RM 4,000 rebate on a Proton Iriz for BR 1 M recipients interested in becoming an Uber or Grab driver in Budget 2017. As such, lawyers are determining if there were any quid pro quo dealings involved.
“We strongly refute our involvement in any quid pro quo arrangements,” a Ma GIC spokeswoman told the publication via email. Uber’s former business executives, Emil Michael and Eric Alexander, are said to have been instrumental in working out those deals, said sources.
https://ph.news.yahoo.com/singapore-rolls-tough-measures-keep-cars-off-roads-031957906.html
There's an attempt to keep cars off Singaporean roads more and more.
Oh, bother.
Yep, it's another article along the lines of "Fuck Uber".
Uber covered up massive hack that exposed data of 57m users and drivers
Uber also confirmed it had paid the hackers responsible $100,000 to delete the data and keep the breach quiet, which was first reported by Bloomberg.
“None of this should have happened, and I will not make excuses for it,” Uber chief executive Dara Khosrowshahi said in a statement acknowledging the breach and cover-up. “While I can’t erase the past, I can commit on behalf of every Uber employee that we will learn from our mistakes.”
Now I'm really glad I've never used Uber.
Disgusted, but not surprised
Studious Girl
I prefer Lyft anyway
I wish that the MRT system used in Manila wasn't implemented since it's now prone to breakdown and so-called glitches with suggestions that they've been deliberately been messed up.
Oh, bother.
Uber's screwup and coverup is now leading to investigations and quite possibly litigation. Good.
Uber faces slew of investigations in wake of 'outrageous' data hack cover-up
US courts are divided over how to handle class action suits involving data breach suits. Some courts allow any individual whose personal information was leaked to join suits, while others require plaintiffs to show that they actually suffered harm from the breach.
Either way, Hurwitz said, “You can be certain that litigation is coming.”
Uber just keeps giving me reasons to hate them.
Disgusted, but not surprised
To those who go to Japan and travel via metro/or Japanese natives who use the metro:
- I have an official Tokyo Metro App and I have a Rail Metro App by Tokyo Studio for the iOS as an alternative since I use it to check how long I need to get from one metro station to another and whether I need to transfer. However, the latter app has gotten bonkers and I've sent a complaint to to TS via facebook. Can someone recommend another app that's good to use? I intend to use it to double check so that I don't make a mistake/consult the maps for traveling via Tokyo (mostly).
One alternative I'm considering is "NAVITIME for Japan Travel". Although if you pay for the extras, it has a feature that helps you find another route on the map (I think this is on the walking part of the maps) in case there's something wrong (Accident/roadblock).
In case anyone's asking, it's because I need it for traveling to outside of Tokyo just in case like the Shinkansen or to Yokohama and I want to consult the routes.
edited 25th Nov '17 6:28:20 AM by Ominae
Friendly Neighborhood Lich
Oh hey, a public transit thread! And nobody here has represented the San Francisco Bay Area as far as I can tell. Well, guess that's my job now.
One thing I really like about public transit here, and I think this is probably true of a few other public transit systems around the world (not entirely sure on that) is that there are buses and at least three different train systems around the area, and locals can buy a reloadable pass (called a Clipper card over here) that works on all of them - so no paying for separate tickets for things. I am pretty sure the only buses it applies to are those in SF itself or nearby though, though I may be wrong about other city bus systems around the area. Which is fine in my case since the availability of public transit seems to positively correlate with the difficulty of parking. Sometimes though, people will be lazy and take Uber of Lyft - this is especially common to save time, or after hours.
I remember back when I lived in the east bay and had to commute via BART (one of the subway systems) to get to work. The commute consisted of a 45-minute ride on frequently-crowded trains, followed by a shuttle that I would take to my work place (which is in a devoid-of-public-transit area because plenty of parking), adding another 15 minutes. That plus a 15 minute walk from home to the station, and an average of 15 minutes of waiting, made the total trip about an hour and a half one way. Cost about $9 round trip. The real challenge was that the shuttle only ran at specific times, so if I missed the last one I was SOL for getting to/from the train station. Thankfully that never happened to me, and I am fortunate in that I have a car, so if I knew it was going to be too late for me to catch the last shuttle, I just drove instead... which took an average of 45 minutes due to traffic (with no traffic it takes just under 30 minutes).
What was also a little harrowing about taking public transit was that there were many instances of a train being delayed due to either an equipment malfunction (more uncommon) or a "medical emergency" - the latter usually being due to someone trying unsuccessfully to wake up someone sleeping on the train, and then just before the medical team arrives they wake up just fine.
Nowadays though, I live much closer to work and can just drive there, but I still take public transit all the time to go up into the city (or to downtown Oakland where parking can also be difficult). So far I haven't experienced any problems with it as I take it primarily in the evening and on weekends... guess it's the morning commute that for some reason causes stuff to shut down.
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Studious Girl
Sounds similar to the NYC system
When it comes to train delays, NYC has a different attitude towards lateness than other places I've lived. Back in the suburbs, lateness was an inexcusable personal fault. But here, where everyone takes public transport, it's a fact of life that you're going to be late sometimes. You can walk in half an hour late, say something about trains, and be completely forgiven.
Oh, bother.
Yet another story along the lines of "Uber sucks"
Uber had special team to obstruct legal cases and spy on rivals, court told
The dramatic public testimony, on the eve of jury selection for the hotly anticipated civil trial over allegations that Uber stole trade secrets from Google’s self-driving car spinoff Waymo, came after it was revealed that Uber had withheld evidence, leading Judge William Alsup to delay the the trial indefinitely.
Earlier this year, the attorney for Richard Jacobs, a former Uber employee, had sent a letter to Uber’s in-house counsel with his allegations about the special group. But Uber had not provided the letter to Waymo as part of legal discovery before the start of the trial. On November 22, federal prosecutors, who are conducting a separate investigation, alerted the judge to the existence of the letter.
“If even half of what’s in that letter is true, it would be a huge injustice to force Waymo to go to trial” as scheduled, Judge Alsup said.
Denying worker's rights, ignoring and enabling sexual harassment, price-gouging, trying to gain a monopoly on transportation services, covering up a massive hack, and now corporate espionage and obstruction of justice...all of this and Uber still can't make a single damn cent of profit. It's a moral and monetary sinkhole.
Disgusted, but not surprised
The Wanderer
Tour the MTA's new open-gangway subway cars in Midtown this week
The R-2-11 train will notably feature an open gangway between cars to help pack more straphangers inside. Cars also boast a 58-inch door spans, which is eight inches wider than standard doors. Digital displays show real-time information about service and stations. Finally, the model is decorated with blue and yellow stripes and the state seal—a nice reminder that when you're having subway woes, the MTA is run by New York state (and, by extension, Governor Andrew Cuomo).
In a release, MTA chairman Joe Lhota noted that customer feedback on the new cars is “very important,” and said that “developing a first-in-class subway car is an essential part of modernizing our subway system.”
Other features include bulti-in Wi-Fi and USB Ports, though they think we won't be seeing a full order until the late 2020s, and a full system turnover until the 2070s. (So I'll be in my 80s by then, assuming I'm still around.)
Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Usually anyone who has to get somewhere that late has a car.