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chownbiblio Chown Biblio Since: Sep, 2015
Chown Biblio
#1: Oct 5th 2015 at 7:35:06 PM

Source indexes have the form

  • Work1
    • Page1
    • Page2

  • Work2
    • PageI
    • PageII
    • PageIII

etc.

The way the templates are generated presently means that the template on PageI looks like:

| << Work2 >Index< PageII >> |

When really it ought to look like:

| << Page2 >Index< PageII >> |

In other words, the algorithm that scrapes the index pages ought to ignore links with fewer than two levels of bulleting.

edited 5th Oct '15 7:47:32 PM by chownbiblio

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#2: Oct 6th 2015 at 12:03:55 AM

The Image Source pages are unique because of their heavy use of sub-bullet points. Even then, I would ask which is more useful, going to the work that's the source of the image on the page you're on, or going to a page with an image from a completely different work?

(The case of Page2 might be more convincing, as there you'd be going to the page for a completely different work, but even then at least that alerts you that that's the end of the pages with images from that work, which you might not catch otherwise especially if the first page from the next work fits alphabetically after the last page from the previous work.)

chownbiblio Chown Biblio Since: Sep, 2015
Chown Biblio
#3: Oct 7th 2015 at 4:07:14 PM

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I meant that the source indexes specifically should be scraped at the 2nd bulletting level, not indexes in general.

On second thought what's really needed is a way to see the name of the source work on the trope pages, rather than just the medium of the work, which really isn't all that informative in and of itself. Something along the lines of:

| << Page2 >Image Source/Medium/Work2< PageII >> |

edited 7th Oct '15 4:08:19 PM by chownbiblio

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#4: Oct 7th 2015 at 9:43:58 PM

Most page images should be potholed to the source work, or in the case of collages, have links to the source works in the caption or in a note in the caption.

The simplest way to pull off what you ask is to have separate Image Source pages for each work. That may not be practical when a lot of works provide only one image, but perhaps some particularly prolific works can get split into their own pages. The other problem is that at that point, the previous and next links still wouldn't go to pages with images from other works as in your examples.

It's possible when the admins finally pull off the long-promised database overhaul it'll involve changes to how the Image Source-recording system works that might allow something closer to what you're asking.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5: Oct 8th 2015 at 1:35:07 AM

One thing I've proposed for the current overhaul is a way to record where images are used.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
chownbiblio Chown Biblio Since: Sep, 2015
Chown Biblio
#6: Oct 10th 2015 at 6:52:41 AM

Oops. Should've posted this to Tech Wishlist.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#7: Oct 10th 2015 at 6:58:17 AM

Moved.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
chownbiblio Chown Biblio Since: Sep, 2015
Chown Biblio
#8: Oct 10th 2015 at 8:56:16 AM

The simplest way to pull off what you ask is to have separate Image Source pages for each work. That may not be practical when a lot of works provide only one image, but perhaps some particularly prolific works can get split into their own pages.
This should be quite easy to do automatically, I presume. If a particular source has more than N pages associated, generate a separate template for that source in addition to the regular souce template.

edited 10th Oct '15 8:56:51 AM by chownbiblio

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#9: Oct 12th 2015 at 7:57:52 PM

You do realize that as it stands, Image Source uses the same indexing system as other indexes. You're basically asking us to code up an entirely new system, or at best a substantial modification to the existing system that would apply to Image Source only. I hope you'd understand if the admins would rather roll up what you're asking into a completely new image-source-tracking feature for the new wiki, and who knows how long that'll take.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Mar 15th 2016 at 12:41:01 PM

Bumping to gauge interest, probably not much though.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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