Should go full on spoilers with the first series. This is far more connected with the first series than what people expects. One thing I can say is that people are never going to figure out who Kuon is if they haven't seen the first series.
Answer, might be major or not depending on person, so don't read if you don't want to be spoiled. She is Hakuoro and Yuzuha's daughter who was raised by the characters from the previous series.
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That's a bit of a spoiler indeed, as it means that rather than the anime — where Hakuoro never left any direct heirs (actual children) — but one of the paths from the game.
The VN was entirely linear. There were no real choices, so you could only slightly affect the order of events. I don't remember the anime at all even though I know I watched it, but if that didn't make it in then it was just something they chose not to add, not something that wasn't compatible with a specific ending that they picked.
But anyway, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to know what the slimes are given what little Kuon said about them. Though seeing one kind of talk was a bit of a surprise for me. And Haku's name is based on Hakuoro. So passing familiarity with the original seems to be expected.
edited 5th Oct '15 1:38:36 PM by Arha
The anime ended far differently — the empire was passed explicitly to Yuzuha's brother, and Yuzuha herself died without issue. Also it was an explicit plot point that Eruru was cockblocking EVERYONE in the anime. A bit of a running gag actually, where she'd show up before an event where explicit hanky-panky happened in a game, hence it didn't happen.
That first part happened. Yuzuha also died in the game, but not before giving birth. Oboro then took the baby on a journey around the world while leaving Benawi in charge.
Alsooooo shit. I hope this thing about Kuon wasn't supposed to be a huge game changing spoiler.
edited 5th Oct '15 1:55:31 PM by Arha
The anime kind of made it clear that, while you'd EXPECT something like that to happen, Eruru simply didn't give ANYONE a chance to do so. Karura drunk and horny? Eruru appears. Kamyu at the lake? Eruru appears. I remember the event that was SUPPOSED to lead to Yuzuha and Hakuoro's thing in the game, in the anime, Eruru drags Hakuoro away for paperwork.
Like I said, it becomes a running gag, which is why Kuon being a direct descendant flies in the face of that.
Indeed, another forum I visit mentioned that anime-only watchers won't get the connection, as only the game showed a direct heir (a child). The anime never did that.
edited 5th Oct '15 3:00:38 PM by MyssaRei
You know, we should probably stop talking about this just in case we haven't already spoiled everyone watching this thread.
It's not. It gives Kuon backstory and explains why she does and say what she does. But it's impossible to figure out without knowing the first series.
The game almost tells one indirectly right away, but also tries to mislead one sometimes.
But it's about completely confirmed by the time Kuon meets with Karura and Touka, and also when she talks with Dori and Gura in secret in her room.
But yeah, this revelation doesn't effect the story of Itsuwari that much. It might only lead to confusion for some, and if it's going to effect something, it will happen in Utaware 3.
Episode. I suppose that's just Haku in the OP wearing a mask and not Hakuoro?
Seems the show is reusing the soundtrack from the first game.
Slime and Haku, BFF. And was that Touka in the preview?
edited 10th Oct '15 11:34:40 AM by Arha
Touka is not in the preview, was it not Nosuri you saw?
And it's not Haku in that mask, and it's not Hakuoro either.
edited 10th Oct '15 11:37:32 AM by Zedar89
I don't know who that is. Also, I don't really want my questions answered. I'm really just kind of thinking about what's going on in the form of a question.
edited 10th Oct '15 11:59:10 AM by Arha
Ok, won't answer any more questions then.
Well, Haku seems to be a step up from Hakuoro in popularity I guess. Hakuoro only had humanoids going for him while now a bird seems to be crushing on Haku.
I like the way Haku gives no fucks about seeing her naked.
Oh god the thieves angered the cuccos.
LOVE WINS
That back profile of the inn manager looked kind of like Karura. Guess we'll be learning about her next episode. And that old merchant kind of looks like the one from the original but the speech patterns are different, so I'm assuming coincidence.
Wait, does blue haired girl's VA just really suck? I figured her monotone was because she was supposed to be doing a bad job of scamming Haku but it seems not.
His reflexes are getting better.
I like how Haku and Kuon never get embarrassed about their relationship. I'm sure that'll change eventually but it's still kind of nice to see people mistaken for lovers not start blushing and stammering.
Edit: You know, Ukon just reminds me too much of Teoro. Somehow I don't think a long and healthy life is in store for him.
edited 31st Oct '15 2:06:02 PM by Arha
I'm pretty sure Kuon is Ukon's love interest, not Haku's, just from the way they keep framing things. Haku gets all the other birds (plus a literal bird).
Neat, it is Karura.
Please, please don't let Haku be Hakuoro.
One Winged Egret
Oh hey, it's fanservice for people who watched the first anime. I remember those two being mega-badasses. And they kind of danced around it, but based on their animal features I assume Kuon is Karura's biological daughter?
edited 8th Nov '15 1:53:10 AM by Clarste
The implication is that none of them are. I mean, Karura might be sensitive about her age but refusing to let her biological daughter call her mom seems weird. Plus if Kuon was a giryagina or whatever we'd know.
One Winged Egret
Well, I guess that's a possibility, but the implication I got was that Hakuoro's harem just raised all their children together as one family, and we just didn't see any of her siblings in the flashbacks.
I guess addressing that point too directly might make the, um, literal haremness of the previous series a bit too up front for the relatively PG anime adaptations though.
Hakuoro only had one kid in the original game so if you're working under the assumption that she's Hakuoro's daughter that leaves only one candidate.
Though I guess a few details about the ending were probably retconned. Touka and Karura should have been busy with mercenary work, not child rearing. Not that Kuon would have been in Tusukuru for them to raise anyway.
edited 8th Nov '15 2:12:13 AM by Arha
One Winged Egret
Oh, I must have misremembered then. It's been a long time.
edited 8th Nov '15 2:11:58 AM by Clarste
Just flowing with it.
Haku's laid-back attitude to practically anything is making this show for me.
Well, that's one way to Multiple Choice Past. Eruru seems to be the most logical choice for a mother, but she had a fluffier tail, though you can say that human DNA can lead to some abnormalities.
It's really good but I wonder when we'll get to the action.
edited 10th Nov '15 6:48:30 AM by haseo
So, getting an anime for this when the game only just came out, huh?
The giant bug kind of interests me since there weren't really any monsters in the original, so I'm wondering why it's even here. Except these red slime things and oh look, a red slime eating the bug. Guess this is one of them.
Reusing the amnesia plot device. And this guy is a human, unlike all the animal people.
I already like Kuon more than Eruruw.
Oh, by the way, should we have spoilers on or off regarding the first story? I think the assumption is that you probably know what happened already but this is probably a standalone story in the same world rather than reusing the characters and whatnot. And I think that knowledge is likely to be relevant since my immediate guess is that this guy is a human that was in stasis in the laboratory that Hakuoro wrecked. Which would explain why he's so weak.
Edit: There's a page up for it now as well. It's pretty minimal since I don't know much about this yet.
edited 4th Oct '15 10:44:54 PM by Arha