Follow TV Tropes

Following

Suggestion: Balkanize Me

Go To

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#1: Jul 22nd 2015 at 8:32:34 AM

How about the break-up of the Former Yugoslavia?

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#3: Jul 22nd 2015 at 4:57:04 PM

It's a start.

Check out my fanfiction!
Kakai from somewhere in Europe Since: Aug, 2013
#4: Jul 28th 2015 at 3:33:48 AM

That's probably the best one, especially as it's the Trope Namer, too.

Rejoice!
AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#5: Jul 28th 2015 at 3:44:43 AM

Being the trope namer doesn't make it a better image. In some cases it's worse.

Check out my fanfiction!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#6: Jul 28th 2015 at 3:52:41 AM

Enough for now, but a non-Balkan image would be better.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#7: Jul 30th 2015 at 9:54:05 AM

Actually, it seems that we're looking for scenarios where this happens as a result of Alternate History or Speculative Fiction, so we'd do best with an image that a) didn't happen historically (like the Balkans) and b) isn't the United States (which has its own trope). The Trope Namer itself surprisingly isn't an example, while almost every entry in the real life folder is shoehorning.

edited 30th Jul '15 9:54:24 AM by Morgenthaler

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#8: Jul 30th 2015 at 10:15:43 AM

The tropes seems focused on alternate and speculative settings, but if anything it specifically includes real life examples.

Check out my fanfiction!
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#9: Jul 30th 2015 at 12:28:47 PM

In that case I'll offer the break-up of the Soviet Union for consideration as an alternative to the OP:

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
MAI742 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#10: Aug 6th 2015 at 6:48:33 PM

I'd support the Soviet example too. Nice, big empire.

Perhaps the First Republic/Chinese Civil War would be better, though, not least for introducing neglected periods of history.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Nationalist_China_1929_-_1937.PNG&imgrefurl=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War&h=688&w=888&tbnid=SsGuhyBzEWfUUM:&docid=vpf5kT2loj3ZnM&ei=-Q3EVd2VBKWNmwXN6aDAAQ&tbm=isch&ved=0CCYQMygKMApqFQoTCJ321vHslccCFaXGpgodzTQIGA

Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. — Mark Twain
MAI742 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#11: Aug 6th 2015 at 6:50:10 PM

Question, though: why would a non-balkan example be better? Surely Yugoslavia or, say, the Ottomans would be best given that they fit the name.

Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. — Mark Twain
AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#12: Aug 6th 2015 at 7:05:45 PM

I think what makes the image of Soviet a little less illustrative is that it looks like a big honking empire that turns into a big honking empire and some change.

Check out my fanfiction!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#13: Aug 7th 2015 at 12:51:48 AM

^^The trope is not specific about the Balkans. Some experience indicates that literal trope names discourage non-literal trope usage.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DeisTheAlcano Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#14: Aug 16th 2015 at 10:00:44 AM

I think 9 demonstrates the trope well enough.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#15: Aug 16th 2015 at 10:22:14 AM

The dissolution of Charlemagne's empire, then? For one thing it's a fairly equal division that emphasizes the fragmentation more clearly than the Soviet case. Suggested caption: "This is what you get when all three brothers want their share."

edited 21st Aug '15 9:47:50 AM by Morgenthaler

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#16: Aug 27th 2015 at 3:27:41 PM

Or possibly the Roman Empire splitting in two? A bit less fragmentary than the Carolingian case, but the legend helps.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Rjinswand Since: Apr, 2015
#17: Aug 28th 2015 at 3:28:37 AM

Real world examples don't illustrate this trope, since it is about hypothetical balkanizations that happen in Alternate History.

edited 28th Aug '15 3:30:09 AM by Rjinswand

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#18: Aug 28th 2015 at 6:52:09 AM

For an explicitly alternative history scenario that isn't the Balkans or the Divided States of America, here's a fractured Italy.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#19: Aug 28th 2015 at 8:26:25 AM

[up]That's not bad. Where's it from?

Check out my fanfiction!
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#20: Aug 28th 2015 at 9:55:37 AM

Found that one on this forum. It's unlicensed, so that should be good.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#21: Aug 28th 2015 at 6:36:26 PM

The Italy pic is pretty good.

DeisTheAlcano Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#22: Aug 28th 2015 at 6:58:31 PM

The Italy image is a pretty good example.

Rjinswand Since: Apr, 2015
#23: Aug 29th 2015 at 2:25:55 AM

I like the Italy image.

If we choose it, though, I'd suggest that the caption should explain that it's an AU, since not many people know much about the history of early 20th century Italy.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#24: Aug 29th 2015 at 3:43:39 PM

^ I don't think that's strictly necessary. Even if people don't know the specifics of Italian history, they will generally know that it became one country at some point. Coupled with the trope destription, it should suggest "alternate history" clearly enough.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#25: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:49:38 AM

Here's a crowner for the options we have so far.

edited 30th Aug '15 8:49:57 AM by Morgenthaler

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"

ImagePickin: BalkanizeMe
30th Aug '15 8:46:52 AM

Crown Description:

Nominations for replacement images:

Total posts: 32
Top