Legends of Tomorrow, the Flash/Arrow spin-off

Signed.

Seconded.

I agree with that sentiment

Sign, but we all know online petitions don't do anything.

Thawne is already dead/RetGoned. All the stuff he's doing here is stuff he'd already done long before he decided to kill Barry's mom.

Taking away his time travel seems like too little too late.

.. Wait, if this Eobard is from his personal timeline before messing with the flash, does that mean that when Sara Lance does the logical thing and tricks him into running through a spiderweb made of futuristic piano wire, Barry's parents will stop being dead.. again?

Because you just know she'll go there.

Since they probably do not want to retcon flash.. again. This season, I am betting this eobard is the one Barry let go for.. no very good reason in the season premiere.

edited 21st Oct '16 3:04:45 PM by Izeinsummer

presumably. although shouldn;t his speedforce connection have, you know, stopped, requiring him to then go kill Wells and take his place? since this is "just killed Nora" Eobard? maybe this is just killed Nora eobard and his helping actual literal nazis is what severed his connection to the speed force and when he gets back from screwing with the timeline he'll be stuck in 2000 and have to go kill Wells? I /hate/ paradoxes.

Speed Force doesn't care about Nazis. Zoom tried to destroy the entire multiverse. If it didn't take away his speed for that it won't de-power Thawne for anything that doesn't involve Barry.

Apparently if you have some kind of grand plan, the speed force goes easy on you when you timetravel. However, if you do it for personal reasons, it will screw you sideways.

Which means that, for Flashpoint to be good, Barry should have found a way to justify how saving his mom would cure cancer or something.

At some point, I want someone to glare up at the sky and bellow, "THAAAAAAAAWNE!"

edited 21st Oct '16 7:04:44 PM by RavenWilder

Barry needs to swat Thawne with a newspaper and go, "Eobard, no time-traveling!" or something because this monkeying around with the timeline is getting ridiculous.

Speed Force loves Tha... well, actually, I need to fact-check but isn't Thawne's speed not a product of the Speed Force? Wasn't he originally just "manipulating time" to match the Flash's speed? I could've sworn there was a member of the Anti-Flash League that had an alternative to the Speed Force.

After killing Barry's mom, he lost his speed force powers, and was using a tachyon device in Season 1 of The Flash to give himself speed powers, but apprently wasn't enough to give him the ability to time travel.

Right now, because Eddie killed himself and prevented Eobard from even being born, I think Thawne exists outside of the timeline, which is how he can change so many things.

I'm still mad that Eddie's sacrifice didn't really solve anything except give barry a little time. it didn't even bring back the people Wellsobard murdered recently.

Except the explanation prior to Flashpoint is that he's ultimately just playing out events that already happened, basically prerecorded events.

Still sticking to my guns that him and Ronnie didn't die and are alive somewhere.

edited 21st Oct '16 7:52:53 PM by Cross

But the explanation now is that Barry let Thawne kill his mom. Thawne went and changed things on his own, now that he has his own agency because Barry helped him go back in time. Whatever he's doing in Legends may or may not be affecting what's happening in Flash. This isn't the same timeline that Thawne originally went to, or the one where he showed up in Season 2 as "part of what already happened" even though he was already dead from Team Flash's perspective.

edited 21st Oct '16 8:00:10 PM by Soble

I don't think this has been posted in this thread.

I thought it was pretty amusing. David Ramsey (Diggle's actor) and Melissa Benoist's ones were my favorite.

edited 21st Oct '16 8:51:31 PM by 32ndfreeze

here's hoping that the Legends team will discover that one of the time alterations thawne did was stage a drunk driving accident in feburary 2016, and therefore get to pick up Dante and save him.

If I were Thawne I'd save Dante anyway just to rub it in Barry's face that I can save him and Barry can't.

I'm guessing Thawne now is like the Flashpoint version a living paradox who no longer needs things to play out a certain way due to timeline changing. I do wonder what his endgame here is. It's gotta be to fuck with Barry, that's literally his mo. I just don't know how making shitty cgi hulks furthers that.

x4 Have to wonder if Melissa was channeling Kara or is she just that darn sweet and cute.

Or save Dante to use as leverage Later. Stick him under the pipeline for added irony.

At first I seriously disliked the JSA uniforms, thought thay looked cheap and chintzy. Then I realized they were perfect if you accepted them as what a 1940's Superhero costume would like if you used era specific materials and techniques.

edited 22nd Oct '16 2:55:13 PM by Tanrage

Obsidian, Star Girl, Vixen, and Steel's were already pretty decent.

The weird thing about the idea that Thawne is only carrying out actions from before he was erased from existence, like a faded record, is that he's specifically going after the Legends - who not only explicitly changed the rules of time travel to prevent predestination, but also have at least one member who only exists because Eobard was removed from existence.

By even interacting with him, they risk screwing up the timestream a la Cisco nearly getting retgoned in The Flash.

edited 22nd Oct '16 1:04:03 PM by KnownUnknown