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NateWinchester Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
#426: Apr 18th 2016 at 8:18:01 AM

[up] Welcome aboard!

Also is it me or did the show creator just get himself killed on screen?

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#427: Apr 18th 2016 at 8:44:48 AM

Edit: Actually, that is not the same Rob Thomas. I learned something today. It was funny nonetheless.

edited 18th Apr '16 8:48:59 AM by Julep

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#428: Apr 18th 2016 at 9:01:10 AM

[up][up] [up]Yeah it isn't the same Rob Thomas but they included the other Rob Thomas because they have the same name.

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NateWinchester Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
#429: Apr 18th 2016 at 9:22:05 AM

So that was the actual Rob Thomas singer? I knew that's who they wanted it to be on screen (but couldn't tell) and was figuring they were going for a multilayered meta joke.

I mean if I learned someone else in the entertainment industry had the same moniker as me - it would be what I would do.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#430: Apr 18th 2016 at 10:34:34 AM

That was indeed the real-life lead singer of Matchbox Twenty. Our Rob Thomas has been making jokes about this as far back as Veronica Mars and it was nice to see that little one-sided feud finally come to a head on screen.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
NateWinchester Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
#431: Apr 18th 2016 at 1:15:13 PM

[up]Thanks. I was wondering about that from his first show.

NateWinchester Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
#432: Apr 18th 2016 at 6:52:15 PM

Oh we need to start a summer betting pool!

I wager 5 trope bucks the new zombie nation's name will be... Zeattle.

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#433: Apr 19th 2016 at 6:30:20 AM

£10 on a secret government agency trying to keep things under wraps, I think there was one in the comics the show is based on... need to read em again

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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#434: Apr 19th 2016 at 6:51:31 AM

[up][up]Not the actual nation but the capital will be call Zeattle.

I'm not sure what they will call the actual Zombie nation but whatever it is will be a pun.

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Julep Since: Jul, 2010
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#436: Apr 19th 2016 at 10:14:20 AM

Unite Dead States of America?

edited 19th Apr '16 10:14:39 AM by RavenWilder

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#437: Apr 19th 2016 at 10:18:54 AM

Not a pun but he was in the movie White Zombie; Lugosi sounds like a good name for a country.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#439: Apr 22nd 2016 at 10:26:25 PM

Filmore Graves isn't really that prophetic. If you think about it, it's actually the opposite of what someone looking to create a nation of zombies would be doing.

32ndfreeze (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#440: Apr 28th 2016 at 3:17:29 AM

I'm not really sure how a zombie nation is in anyway sustainable.

I'm glad about Vaughn though.

edited 28th Apr '16 3:17:42 AM by 32ndfreeze

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#441: Apr 28th 2016 at 4:10:41 AM

[up]well, its sustainable, we wouldn't just like it.

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Izeinsummer Since: Jan, 2015
#442: Apr 28th 2016 at 4:20:58 AM

It's really not. Each zombie needs 52 dead people per year. For a mercenary band in the worst conflict zones - sort of doable. For a ME in a major city? Kind of easy. For a nation? No. Synthetic substitutes would make it viable, but without that, just no. Numbers dont work.

NateWinchester Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
#443: Apr 28th 2016 at 5:06:34 AM

Yeah... there's no way for the zombie nation to work.

So let's round things to nice multiples of 5 for easy math. We haven't had it spelled out exactly how much brain the zombies need to eat and how often, but it seems like a minimum of once a week (given the way Major's scheduling is talked about this episode, it seems close to every 5 days must eat). The amount of brain used seems to cover at least a month. So let's say 1 brain, eaten at the minimum rate every 5 days can last a zombie 30 days. This works out also to 1 brain can adequately supply 6 zombies for a meal (seems to fit this episode where 1 Rob Thomas brain was feeding 4, and Liv was invited meaning they had a bit left). It's estimated that about 150,000 people die in the world each day. Let us assume that 100% of ALL of those deaths leave the brain edible by this series' zombies and that 100% of ALL of those deaths, the brains reach this hypothetical zombie nation. That gives the nation a maximum possible size of 900,000. ASSUMING absolutely NOTHING goes wrong in the supply chain. That puts the zombie nation at the same size as Dijibouti as a nation, MAX.

And think about that a moment. That's assuming every nation in the world is shipping brains to the new nation of Zeattle. But now consider it for a moment. You're in a hospital bed, dying of something, and you know that if you die today, your brain will be shipped to these zombies for eating. These zombies which could so easily just scratch you to make you a zombie that doesn't have to worry about dying any more. You think classism and racism is bad NOW? What about when a group of people is denying eternal life to another group purely for eating purposes?

Even if they could find a sustainable food supply (maybe monkey brains?) there's just no way they would survive the resulting full on war that the muggles would bring to that nation.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#444: Apr 28th 2016 at 6:06:37 AM

I imagine that will be one of the main conflicts next season.

I wonder if brains from other animals can work. It hasn't been brought up yet but I don't think any zombie thought to try.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#445: Apr 28th 2016 at 6:09:16 AM

Maybe some synthetic brains? Like Tru Blood for zombies?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#446: Apr 28th 2016 at 6:11:47 AM

That's a bit too clean. Maybe they'll find a synthetic brain formula but it will turn out to have some long term side effect.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#447: Apr 28th 2016 at 6:35:24 AM

It's unlikely. Blood is a rather "simple" part of the human body, especially compared to the brain, so while synthetizing the former is within the realm of possibility, for the latter it's...not. But I can picture it being part of a crime of the week or some subplot, yeah.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#448: Apr 28th 2016 at 7:23:38 AM

Animal brains is something to look into. The zombie rat tried to eat Ravi and ignored Liv, just like a human zombie.

Of course, the side effect of eating animal brains (even if it works) is obvious when you gain personality traits from the brains you eat.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#449: Apr 28th 2016 at 7:58:23 AM

You all seem to be assuming that "zombie nation" means "nation of zombies", as opposed to "nation run by zombies". I'd say we're most likely looking at them trying to establish a zombie aristocracy.

NateWinchester Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
#450: Apr 28th 2016 at 12:27:32 PM

[up]That still goes back to my inevitable war scenario.

Yeah, I could see (especially given this show) animal brains being EDITABLE but the result... not as tolerable.

I'm betting Major goes through it next season. (it's like he's in a miserable-off with Miles O'Brien)


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