Redmess
I personally think retroactively removing every trace of the WTC (or any references to other disasters) from all media is rather Orwellian, and frankly, more disrespectful to the victims than the actual depiction itself, which is generally just harmless background scenery for the towers, in that example.
And things like hurricanes and tsunamis occur ALL the time, hurricanes even multiple times a year (its not called the hurricane conveyor belt for nothing). Does that mean art can never depict or even mention natural disasters because there has been a recent natural disaster? Then we can never have natural disasters in fiction anymore, because these things are a regular part of life.
Is a mention of a generic "massacre" in a title really enough to merit Harsher in Hindsight on a very specific shooting?
Optimism is a duty.
I'm not saying I agree with the edits, I'm saying weather-related disasters are getting worse. Bigger, stronger, more numerous.
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Redmess
But the point is that SOME hurricane disaster was bound to happen right around the start of the series, since it premiered right around the start of hurricane season in the US. And Launchpad crashes a plane in every episode he is in. He even crashes one in the intro song. Should we edit that out, too?
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If you check any page with an example of Harsher in Hindsight, you will notice that it is usually along the lines of "The character died in the movie by being shot, the actor died 30 years later of natural causes", or similarly gross misinterpretations of the trope in question.
I feel like "life is like a hurricane" is in the same category. The song is far older than the recent events that the Harsher in Hindsight entry mentions, and the song mentions no specific cities being ravaged by the hurricane. Hell, the song uses hurricane as a metaphor for something overwhelming, fast and disorienting, not as a literal scene of unspeakable destruction and loss of lives.
I know it's YMMV and all, but still.
edited 12th Nov '17 2:06:36 AM by Xeroop
Redmess
Yeah, that trope really needs a cleanup, especially those dead actors examples.
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It's also part of the reason why they changed Dewy's full name to Dewford as well.
Also, it is very hard for Donald to say Deuteronomy.
https://suspendersofdisbelief.tumblr.com/post/165666837001/another-ducktales-question-in-the-comics
I just find the whole thing to be fascinating, and gives me a lot of respect for how hard everyone works to keep everyone's favorite angry Duck at least semi-cohearent. Personally I think it could even add a layer to his character, as well.
edited 12th Nov '17 3:00:57 PM by megaeliz
Redmess
With "actual reasons", do they mean in-universe or meta?
If its because of the bible reference, that would be lame and rather idiotic. What's wrong with deuteronomy? It hardly seems like a controversy spawning part of the bible. Or are there really Christians out there who would take offense?
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Disasturbator
It's not that Christians would take offence but it's more to do avoiding religion topic itself
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Did anyone see this?
It also informed a lot of our thinking on how to approach it. The ducks are EVERYWHERE and belong to EVERYONE. So we couldn't be married to any one version. We had to pull from everywhere and still offer something new.
https://twitter.com/FrankAngones/status/929488740707217408
edited 12th Nov '17 5:46:34 PM by megaeliz
Redmess
It does sound rather overly-obsessive and kind of a knee-jerk reaction. I'd try to remove the edit.
Redmess
Which one, the hurricane one or the massacre one? I'd say both, honestly.
Optimism is a duty.
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Seems reasonable to me.
edited 13th Nov '17 12:33:12 PM by megaeliz
Redmess
On that note, I think "The Beagle Boys massacre" was kind of a bad title anyway, since there was no massacre to speak of (not that there even would be). This title is just another attempt to be edgy for an episode that hardly merits the moniker.
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Snow Ghost
Wasn't it "...Birthday Massacre"...?
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Redmess
You're right, it was the Beagle Birthday Massacre.
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Snow Ghost
Ah, see, that's much less edgy...
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Redmess
I've removed it, I think it shouldn't be an example of Harsher in Hindsight, unless there is an actual outcry over it (which I highly doubt).
Come to think of it, that would probably be one good indicator of the trope.
Optimism is a duty.
The hurricane one. Sorry, I had to be away from this thread for a while.
Here, have a tiny Ludwig on a post it note. (One of mine actually, It's a bit sketchy, but I'm actually pretty pleased with how he's come out.)
https://twitter.com/mega_musical/status/930214863217025024
edited 13th Nov '17 5:09:06 PM by megaeliz
Redmess
Post-it notes with a tiny Ludwig in one corner would be hilarious.
Optimism is a duty.
Ludwig is amazing.
edited 14th Nov '17 12:37:50 PM by megaeliz
I found something awesome, that I think you guys will appreciate. Someone made a 360 degree illustration inspired by The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck. It's very impressive, and has all sorts of easter eggs and references.
edited 14th Nov '17 5:41:39 PM by megaeliz
Reminds me of a museum exhibit, kind-of. Pretty neat.
edited 14th Nov '17 11:36:00 PM by xanderiskander
This is a country that airbrushed WTC One and Two out of the New York skyline in movies and cut the terrorists and therefore the sense out of Back to the Future in the months after 9/11. I can see people getting twitchy about casually referencing hurricanes in a time when we're having more and stronger hurricanes doing unprecedented damage to people's homes.
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