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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#76: Mar 30th 2015 at 8:52:35 AM

That would be one of the central themes of this work, yes.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#77: Mar 31st 2015 at 3:23:23 AM

Just started watching it. Love the character designs, but did Maria need to get that graphic about Jeanne D'Arc's fate?

EDIT:"Homosexuality is in vogue, now."

edited 31st Mar '15 3:39:34 AM by TheHandle

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#78: Mar 31st 2015 at 5:34:36 AM

In the dub, I think she says "Against Greek love, I'm powerless!"

I so love, btw, how this series absolutely refuses to condemn characters for having (and enjoying) a great deal of sex.

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#79: Mar 31st 2015 at 9:39:16 AM

[up][up][up]*siiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh*

I guess it is what it is, then.

I did like how the second episode was like "let's see how many euphemisms for 'penis' we can come up with."

edited 31st Mar '15 9:40:24 AM by PhysicalStamina

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#80: Mar 31st 2015 at 7:00:51 PM

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If you've read some of the manga chapters, you'll soon find out that the anime actually toned the criticism of Medieval Christianity down.

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#81: Mar 31st 2015 at 8:41:37 PM

[up]I haven't, and knowing this I probably won't.

I mean, I already don't read manga but even if I did I wouldn't touch it.

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#82: Mar 31st 2015 at 9:42:35 PM

I'm not sure I see the problem in this series tackling that theme, in a work where the authority and reach of the Catholic church in medieval France is a major thing.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#83: Mar 31st 2015 at 11:19:48 PM

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And hardly pleasant too, but the context fits — this was a time where many ambitious noblemen ended up in the clergy, and they treated the Church as just another means to rule people.

EDIT: There's an interesting theory that all of this wasn't about the Church of Heaven getting rid of Maria — instead, it was of them getting rid of Bernard. Given how the Power of Belief plays a part in the lives of supernatural beings in Maria, Bernard's newly-formulated philosophy, had it spread, would have put a severe dent in the Church of Heaven's existence.

While it would eventually re-surface (about four hundred years later in the real world) due to philosophical debate), that's still time bought by Michael for his boss.

edited 1st Apr '15 7:23:56 AM by MyssaRei

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#84: Apr 1st 2015 at 8:24:25 AM

Not sure I buy that- I mean, yes, it would have weakened them, but the guy's not omniscient, and by all appearances his only interaction with Bernard was 'crazy guy rambling about something or other and trying to strangle me.'

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#85: Apr 1st 2015 at 1:27:06 PM

That would imply that Bernard's opinions would have mattered immediately.

Given how much his demise was an afterthought, I doubt it. Christianity 2 stronk

[lol] at Ezekiel's fate. I really liked this show.

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#86: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:35:24 PM

[up]x4 It's just that I've heard (well, read, technically) so much crap about Christianity in general that I'm just beyond sick of it at this point.

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#87: Apr 15th 2015 at 6:35:47 AM

Just finished the show. Happy ending, some contrivances, but who cares it's a happy ending. Ezekiel even gets to become Maria's baby! That family will be plenty of fun.

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#88: Apr 27th 2015 at 6:34:46 PM

I need to find time to watch this series. Just got reminded that it's one of those I had to stop watching because of time constraints, and not because I lost interest.

Anyway, I thought this might be interesting and relevant.

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#89: Apr 29th 2015 at 6:29:10 AM

As another note, I am digging the dub.

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#90: Jan 11th 2017 at 8:04:58 PM

Finished the show. Loved it. Coming from someone who normally finds something to nitpick about endings, I found this to end everything it set out to do, in a satisfactory way, and in twelve episodes within an anime-original plot, no less. Color me impressed. Also dub is great.

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#91: Jan 12th 2017 at 12:26:11 PM

Anybody else purchase the manga?

Got all main three and extra volumes and showed it to my preacher dad.

He liked it. Made us get in an argument about Gkd and faith.

darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#92: Jan 13th 2017 at 6:38:16 AM

I know Bernard and a few other characters don't exist in the manga. Are there any other differences or characterization compared with the anime? I know the series changed things a bit to basically speed up the pace and give things more urgency as I understand, the manga is pretty chill and episodic by comparison.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#93: Jan 15th 2017 at 4:28:50 AM

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Quite a bit. Going through the raws will show you that Michael actually fills an antagonistic role, though most of the bad stuff happens because of the general dickery of people to their fellow man.

EDIT: You'd also want to check out Junketsu no Maria: Exhibition, as it gives a sort of epilogue for the series.

Well worth it even just for Anne, who's Ezekiel reincarnated as Maria's daughter, finally meeting Michael again, and on more friendly terms.

edited 15th Jan '17 4:41:30 AM by MyssaRei

fillerdude from Inside Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#94: Jan 15th 2017 at 5:33:26 AM

Okay, that is real cute. So happy for Ezekiel.

darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#95: Jan 15th 2017 at 9:09:07 AM

I loved the lil angel, she was a cutie. So she does remember everything as a human?

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#96: Jan 15th 2017 at 7:22:32 PM

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Nope, judging from the dialogue, this is her first time meeting Michael. So she doesn't really remember.

Heck, her little adventure in the epilogue was her sneaking out from chores and taking Maria's hay fork for a ride.

edited 15th Jan '17 7:23:21 PM by MyssaRei

darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#97: Jan 16th 2017 at 9:32:03 AM

That's a little sad, though I imagine her parents will tell her when she's older. Also it sucks her familiars will have to revert to regular animals when she gave up her magic.

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