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ComicX6 Since: Jan, 2010
#3326: Mar 17th 2017 at 5:06:30 PM

Limited yes, but once you have one on the field I see nothing to stop a player from spamming extra deck monsters like usual. Oh course, I'm talking in the context of the anime here, where I assume Link summoning has been normalized for a while, unlike IRL where everyone's SOL until all the older, popular archetypes get Link support.

Looking at the new characters, I was rather surprised at how completely normal Aoi's design was, even by anime standards, then I hit the "next" arrow to gaze upon Onizuka and saw that Yu-Gi-Oh hasn't lost it. Dude looks like a Stardust Crusaders-era Jojo character who got lost. And I actually find Yusaku's hair to look less weird in his VR avatar form.

edited 17th Mar '17 5:06:49 PM by ComicX6

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#3327: Mar 20th 2017 at 8:09:56 AM

Hmm? Look at Aoi's skirt and tell me that's normal. I think that's the shortest YGO has had yet.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#3328: Mar 20th 2017 at 8:56:23 AM

It's normal for highschool anime uniforms. Most of it is hidden under the sweater. The GX uniform skirts were tinier.

Demetrios Our Favorite Cowgirl, er, Mare from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
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#3329: Mar 20th 2017 at 5:32:40 PM

Speaking of fashion, are they going to go overboard with the fingerless gloves again? ;P

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#3330: Mar 21st 2017 at 10:11:27 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/60nqry/a_neat_thing_about_aoi_onizuka_and_their_ace/

'tl;dr, Aoi and Onizuka's ace monsters are essentially named after themselves - fitting that a series about online dueling would show off avatar monsters.'

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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#3331: Mar 21st 2017 at 4:15:18 PM

I had some interesting analysis on Jaden/Judai Yuki. There are the lines from the latter analysis that stood out to me the most.

I am sick, sick, sick to death of this argument. Want to know why? Because it absolves him of (almost) all guilt. Because it takes the tragic underpinnings of everything that happened (a hero undone and unmade by the very traits that made him so wildly successful in the first place) and replaces it with a soppy, sappy appeal to ‘the poor baby, he was so misunderstood by those mean people!’ Yes, there were mistakes on all sides, chief of which was an atrocious lack of communication. But the lion’s share of the fault lies with Judai, because it was ultimately his decisions that had the greatest impact in creating the whole disaster. If he had waited, if he had been less headstrong, less impulsive, less blinded by his desire to absolve himself of the guilt of Johan’s loss, less sure that him dueling would always solve everything…..

Here’s the thing — he would have fallen with or without his friends being there, in the end. Sho, Asuka, Kenzan, Fubuki, Manjoume — they were all catalysts and the quickest route to the intended end, the path of least resistance. But even if he had gone into Dark World alone, Judai would have buckled — maybe later than sooner and maybe it would have needed a hell of a lot more trickery via that ‘fake Johan’, but he would have still fallen into his own despair and he would have started building Super Fusion. The whole ploy was orchestrated by Yubel form the get-go and what Yubel wants, Yubel gets. Meager details like the lack of everyone else wouldn’t have mattered, in grander scope of things, if ze was utterly determined to make Judai walk the path of tyranny and destruction.

This is where you’re partially right. Yes, everyone else was working on faulty information when it comes to Judai. They’d all been around him so long that his lapses and faults ended up getting sweeped under the rug, seen as merely annoying/endearing traits of their eccentric friend, who would always be around to save them. It took strangers to the group dynamic, like Johan and O’Brien to start drawing attention to things like Judai’s foolishness in perilous situations or his selfish attitude when it came to enjoyment of the game.

Yes, his friends didn’t know him well enough and this cost all of them dearly. But, at the same time,they were dead on the money with their descriptions of him in Dark World. Yes, he was selfish, naive, impulsive and so self-absorbed in his own issues that he threw both himself and everyone else straight into the abyss. That’s what made their words so effective in breaking Yuki Judai to pieces.

Sorry, but he didn’t really care and that’s the honest truth. People think that not caring means being distant and ice-cold or rubbing your palms and cackling at the suffering of others. It’s more insidious and much more subtle than that. It can be a failure to empathize with someone else, a failure to understand their point of view and help them when they need it (remember how he brushed off Sho’s concerns, to the point where even Johan was surprised?) It can be giving good lip-service to the concept of friendship, but then refusing to open up to people or rely on them when you falter. Judai wasn’t cruel or callous in a completely purposeful way — he just ended up taking people for granted, keeping them at arm’s length when it came to his own problems and being dismissive when he should have empathized. It’s all the more tragic when you realize that his character archetype is a Warrior Therapist by definition and he’s very much right in his assertion that 'dueling allows you to know someone else’s heart.'

Yuki Judai was enamored of the idea, the ideal of friendship, not friendship itself. Making nakama speeches by the dozen doesn’t negate actions that go contrary to those appeals to inter-personal bonds. In fact, it’s bitterly ironic to speak about precious bonds when your whole group is disintegrating around you, a leader who doesn’t really know how to lead, surrounded by people whose trust is faltering, for good reason.

Judai/Jaden Yuki is an interesting deconstruction of the idiot hero protagonist and he actually one one of most visible character development in the series.

edited 21st Mar '17 4:17:17 PM by GAP

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#3332: Mar 21st 2017 at 11:57:26 PM

Speaking of Jaden, according to Duel Art since YGO was a bit dark, Takahashi decided GX would be brighter, as Jaden doesn’t have a dark side, is cheerful, hot-blooded, and easy to read.

Takahashi also felt that GX’s cheeriness meant the protagonists couldn’t grow as much and would be unable to defeat someone imposing like Marik, so he wrote in Jaden becoming the Supreme King, but then felt it was almost too dark. But he feels Jaden became a stronger character after that.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#3333: Mar 22nd 2017 at 8:55:37 AM

Did not know Takahashi was that involved in GX, huh.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#3334: Mar 22nd 2017 at 9:14:54 AM

Nor did I.

Has he been involved to some extent with the other series as well.

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ComicX6 Since: Jan, 2010
#3335: Mar 22nd 2017 at 12:18:41 PM

Well we know he did the Signers' character designs and outlined the premise for 5Ds. He also designed Yuma and his friends and family for ZEXAL, though compared to his Signer sketches he obviously didn't spend as much time on them.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#3336: Mar 22nd 2017 at 12:27:25 PM

Huh.

How about his involvement with Arc V?

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ComicX6 Since: Jan, 2010
#3337: Mar 22nd 2017 at 4:32:37 PM

Raking in royalty checks I imagine.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#3338: Mar 22nd 2017 at 4:33:24 PM

He wanted 5D's to be the last one IIRC.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#3339: Mar 22nd 2017 at 4:41:52 PM

[up] But we know that is never gonna happen.

"We are just like Irregular Data. And that applies to you too, Ri CO. And as for you, Player... your job is to correct Irregular Data."
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#3340: Mar 23rd 2017 at 1:58:49 PM

Between Pyramid of Light, The Darkside of Dimensions, and Duel Links Seto Kaiba has virtual simulations/NP Cs of himself, Yami Yugi, Yami Bakura, and possibly Yami Marik (as of this writing he hasn’t shown up yet, but Bakura’s an NPC so he might be too). The Falsebound Kingdom video game also has NP Cs of Pegasus, Ishizu, Odion, and both Mariks, plus guys from Forbidden Memories. And then there were the virtual worlds in the anime’s Legendary Heroes and Noah arcs, which had tons of NP Cs named and unnamed, plus Duel Monsters.

I just picture them all banding together to try and escape to the real world and everybody gets confused XD

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#3341: Mar 31st 2017 at 7:12:56 AM

How would an Akiza vs Zuzu duel go?

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#3342: Mar 31st 2017 at 7:25:40 AM

Depends on who the writers favor more. Looking up their profiles online they have an equal win/lose streak. Yuzu did beat her main character as opposed to Aki losing to hers twice but seeing as Yuzu only won because Yuya was goofing off I'm not sure it counts. In which case Aki has still lost to her Yusei twice whereas Yuzu has no duels against Yuya that count. So it's honestly hard to say given what we know about both girls. I guess you could compare their decks but I'm not familiar enough with how the game is actually played to guess based off that.

edited 31st Mar '17 7:26:04 AM by Chariot

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#3344: Apr 2nd 2017 at 3:40:51 PM

It starts in May, with a lead-in TV special April 5.

EDIT: I wonder what would happen if Yami Bakura ever put the Ring on Yugi or Marik. Since it burns people to the bone from the inside out if they're not worthy would it kill them, or would their own Items protect against it?

edited 3rd Apr '17 3:18:20 AM by lalalei2001

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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#3345: Apr 3rd 2017 at 8:21:07 AM

[up] I would suspect that it would do just that if what happened to those who aren't chosen are any indication. Although Yami Bakura did try to possess Mokuba in Duelist Kingdom in order to obtain the Eve but he dropped that plan after Tristan knocked him out and saw an opportunity to obtain the Millennium Eye.

"We are just like Irregular Data. And that applies to you too, Ri CO. And as for you, Player... your job is to correct Irregular Data."
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#3346: Apr 3rd 2017 at 8:49:16 AM

[up] That was anime-only, though Capsule Monsters, Monster Capsule GB, and DSOD also had Bakura/the Ring possessing other people. MC GB even had Bakura going for Kaiba after Death-T cause he was in a coma and pretty much soulless at the time.

I wonder what the other Items would do to someone who wasn't worthy. The Ring burned people to the bone from the inside out and the Puzzle never let itself be solved/was implied to make people obsessed with solving it. I imagine the Eye and Necklace driving people mad with visions and maybe the Rod and Key would shut down peoples’ minds, while the Scales would call up Ammit or something.

edited 3rd Apr '17 9:34:25 AM by lalalei2001

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#3347: Apr 3rd 2017 at 10:52:54 AM

So what archetypes would you like to see? I hope to see the Gladiator Beasts, the Crystrons and Six Samurai/Legendary Six Samurai.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#3348: Apr 3rd 2017 at 10:58:29 AM

Kaiju, Noble Knight, Kozmo and Super Quant for the lulz, and maybe see an old monster get their own archetype.

edited 3rd Apr '17 11:02:35 AM by Blueace

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#3349: Apr 4th 2017 at 1:55:29 AM

Alternatively what archetypes would you like to see return? I'd like to see how the Harpies are done in future series too.

TropayXion The i. one. from HEART Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#3350: Apr 4th 2017 at 3:11:56 AM

Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth. Not exactly an archetype, but this thing has been crying for legacy support for years. And it's yet another thing Arc-V messed up by not showing how that one guy summoned it.


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