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TT454 from UK Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: Hiding
#1: Dec 11th 2014 at 5:09:29 AM

Can someone please explain this to me? Because I've always wondered about this, but no-one online seems to even know about this weird inconsistency.

Last night, I watched Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen on my laptop. The film, according to my computer, is 136 minutes long without credits. However, according to Wikipedia, the film is 150 minutes long. Even with the credits included, the film still doesn't reach that length.

Huh?

I've also had a similar problem with my DVD player. I recently watched Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince on it. According to my DVD player, HPATHBP runs for 137 minutes, but according to Wikipedia, it's 153 minutes. Again, even including the credits, the entire movie footage on the DVD never reaches 153 minutes.

So which times are correct? The running times Wikipedia gives, or the times according to the clocks on my laptop or DVD player? It just isn't clear. Has anyone else been confused by this? I know in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter... it's just so weird.

edited 11th Dec '14 5:10:22 AM by TT454

MrLavisherMoot from So'ton, Hants Since: May, 2014
#2: Dec 11th 2014 at 9:12:41 AM

Perhaps you're watching the film at PAL speed.

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ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#3: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:36:52 AM

Not even close, assuming my calculations are correct.

MrLavisherMoot from So'ton, Hants Since: May, 2014
#4: Dec 12th 2014 at 10:06:58 AM

The thing is, when a 24p film production is telecined to PAL, it runs at 96% of the film's original length. For example, a 100-minute film shot at exactly 24 fps would run 96 minutes at PAL speed (25 fps).

Assuming you live in a country where PAL is standard, of course.

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Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#5: Dec 12th 2014 at 10:20:14 AM

[up]That would drive me insane. There's a local country station that speeds up all their songs about 5% to cram in as many ads and DJ gabbings as possible, and my sense of pitch is strong enough to detect even that.

MrLavisherMoot from So'ton, Hants Since: May, 2014
#6: Dec 12th 2014 at 10:27:09 AM

To be honest, as someone who was born and raised in the UK (where PAL speed-up unfortunately applies), I'm kind of used to it, though I am aware that it is a problem, especially when you see a movie at a theatre (where it runs at its original speed) and then see it on TV at about a semitone higher in pitch.

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TT454 from UK Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: Hiding
#7: Dec 12th 2014 at 11:10:51 AM

Ah, that explains it. Yes, my DV Ds are all PAL as I live in the UK. Thanks for the information. I had no idea that they were all sped up.

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