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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#14276: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:17:31 PM

Please don't let it be a nerf... it's practically impossible to find another support on my team already,

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#14277: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:20:39 PM

The next hero reveal should be a support then.

I wonder if it might be Hammond.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#14278: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:29:09 PM

It'll probably be a hero, based on our current pattern.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#14279: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:34:04 PM

[up] Oh yeah that's true so it can't be Hammond.

From what we know he's a villain.

Hmmh interesting to think about who's gonna be next.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#14280: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:38:24 PM

I want some villainous support hero.

Maybe a simple, Mad Scientist type of hero.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#14281: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:51:49 PM

We haven't had a new Defense hero added post-release, so while support is certainly possible, I think Defense is more likely.

I also wouldn't necessarily take the hero/Villain pattern as an ironclad rule. While it does make it more likely that the next new character will be a hero, it's not a guarantee by any means. Plus there's always the possibility of characters who defy being easily characterized as Heroes or Villains.

For example I could see the Queen of Junkertown being an outright villain, but she could also be the only person keeping the Junker society functioning at all, or perhaps she unseated someone who was planning a devastating attack on the more civilized parts of Australia. In that case, perhaps it's a fair bit more complex.

edited 22nd Aug '17 5:52:32 PM by Falrinn

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#14282: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:53:51 PM

I still like the concept of a support Hero whose playstyle consists of a gimmick similar to Soldier's Biotic Field.

edited 22nd Aug '17 5:54:06 PM by Konkfan7

kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#14283: Aug 22nd 2017 at 5:59:47 PM

There must be some level of order in Junkertown in order for them to give Roadhog and Junkrat the boot, after all.

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shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#14284: Aug 22nd 2017 at 6:26:48 PM

[up] It seems like one of those places where the order is "whatever the Queen feels like that won't led to anarchy".

edited 22nd Aug '17 6:27:12 PM by shatterstar

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#14285: Aug 22nd 2017 at 6:34:16 PM

I had an idea for a support that was basically an Anti-Mercy with a web/thread theme, preventing people from dying rather than bringing them back to life: connecting teammates such that damage taken by either is reduced, but also divided between them. Doing "chain lightning" damage to enemies, and inflicting the opposite by having a target enemy takes a portion of damage if a target ally is it. And an ultimate that makes nearby teammates go no lower than 1HP for a few seconds, unless he dies.

Probably broken, though.

Now that I think about it, we don't have a character whose gimmick is reducing incoming damage, do we?

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#14286: Aug 22nd 2017 at 6:39:32 PM

Lucio's ult, and Zarya's barrier kinda.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#14287: Aug 22nd 2017 at 6:41:03 PM

Aren't those shields, though? Extra HP, rather than extra DEF.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#14288: Aug 22nd 2017 at 6:42:30 PM

That's more increasing the health pool, though. I think they probably mean in terms of mathematically reducing damage intake—otherwise Reinhardt's shield would probably count as well.

I suppose they do have mathematical damage increase, so it's not completely out there that they might do mitigation.

EDIT: Orisa! Her Anti-CC mode also gives her 25% mitigation I think.

edited 22nd Aug '17 6:43:00 PM by kegisak

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KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#14289: Aug 22nd 2017 at 7:47:31 PM

When a match goes 3-2; 100%-99%, with the final percent consisting of 3-4 mins of fighting over Ilios's Well: what makes dealing with all the reputed downsides of Comp worth it.

WRT percentile damage mitigation: they have to be very careful with those kinds of multipliers, as proven by what happened with Nanobastion.

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CitizenH Since: Feb, 2014
#14290: Aug 22nd 2017 at 8:00:42 PM

With Ana we have a support with Anti-Heal, which is heal nullification.

I want a support with a "Nega-Heal" debuff, that turns incoming heals to damage.

Imagine tossing a grenade at a pocketed Reinhard, and suddenly his Mercy starts frying him like a Symmetra M1.

We have mechanics that punish shooting indiscriminately (Genji's Deflect and Zarya's bubbles), so lets have something to put healers on their toes.

edited 22nd Aug '17 8:57:55 PM by CitizenH

kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#14291: Aug 22nd 2017 at 8:02:26 PM

Arguably healers punish themselves for healing indiscriminately by crippling their overall effectiveness compared to what they could be doing for the team.

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TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#14292: Aug 22nd 2017 at 8:45:07 PM

I guess in regards to the queen's rule, someone did spot her decrees.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#14293: Aug 22nd 2017 at 9:58:05 PM

Can 5 support and a Genji team work? Yes. Yes it can.

The Genji is fairly competent.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#14294: Aug 22nd 2017 at 10:02:22 PM

Recently, I've been toying with the idea of a Support healer who has elements of a Tank. Like, a health pool of 350 or so who heals others and has low-none damaging capabilities but makes up for it with heals and insane longevity.

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#14296: Aug 22nd 2017 at 10:26:29 PM

[up][up][up] For something like that to work you'd need a really good Genji and all of the supports knowing how to play around you. Zylbrad, immature and kinda annoying as I find him, is unarguably a really good player when he isn't trolling (sometimes even then), and the other five he's playing with in that video are (were) all good friends who know how to communicate.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#14297: Aug 22nd 2017 at 11:53:29 PM

I want enough Healers to have Team White Mage. Practicality be damned.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Imca (Veteran)
#14298: Aug 23rd 2017 at 12:56:46 AM

I hope we get another omnic.

Rotpar Since: Jan, 2010
shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#14300: Aug 23rd 2017 at 7:12:04 AM

That line up would never work if the enemy have a competent Winston. I absolutely wreck 3 support comp with him before.

edited 23rd Aug '17 7:12:26 AM by shatterstar


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