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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#1: Oct 30th 2014 at 2:33:50 PM

Today I had another look at Playing with a Trope and noticed they added Power Glows as a secondary example which is a good thing.

However, I don't agree with the example for Exploited:
"A hero deliberately supercharges his sword with power so he can use it as a flashlight in a dark cave."

This is Invoked. It would only be exploited of the hero did not set this up himself. So perhaps, the hero finds a glowing sword and uses it to light the cave.

Your thoughts?

Alexandri098 Part of the Strawhats from Raftel Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2: Oct 31st 2014 at 5:58:44 AM

Tropes Are Flexible . Both are exploited.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#3: Oct 31st 2014 at 2:58:45 PM

I opened a discussion recently to get that part straightened out and what I learned is that the distinguishing quality of Exploited is that the trope was not to be invoked by the hero (it would happen anyway), he would only take advantage of the outcome. That would mean the example above is wrong. But let's continue the discussion here.

edited 31st Oct '14 3:15:47 PM by eroock

doubleyouteeeff Political ends as sad remains will die from (Hudson) River running right on over my head Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
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#4: Nov 1st 2014 at 5:49:33 AM

Invoked is a character purposefully causing a trope to happen; exploited is a character using a trope to his advantage. There is overlap when a character causes a trope and then takes advantage of it.

I think the example on the page is an example of both exploited and invoked tropes. The example eroock gives looks like it's exclusively exploited and would probably be better on a page meant to explain the difference.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#5: Nov 1st 2014 at 9:23:16 AM

doubleyouteeeff, there is no mentioning of invoking in the Exploited Trope description. The overlap with Invoked would be overwhelming as cases are rare when somebody invokes a trope not to his advantage.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#6: Nov 4th 2014 at 1:12:56 AM

Back to my initial question. Shall I go and adjust the example to better suit the Exploitable trope?

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