My Hero Academia

It could very easily be argued that he did owe him that and it was insulting not for him do so. It could also easily be argued that doing so would be good for himself as well, while this outcome is worse for both of them.

Edit: I think the fact that he apologized internally means Shouto himself acknowledges the first point.

edited 22nd May '15 11:24:22 PM by LSBK

Don't you think Todoroki was obligated to at least try his best, especially after he did so already in his fight with Deku? It's simply good manners.

If his issues were more important than that, then he should have just quit beforehand.

Bakugou owes Todoroki nothing and had reasonable expectations that they could have a good fight where he could use it to prove his worth. He doesn't want to just win, he wants a real opponent who would fulfill the commitments that he willingly took on.

It's nice that Deku prioritized Todoroki over his own chances of victory even if he later regretted it, but the thing is that Deku is and always has been a Hero. Bakugou is not and he should not be expected to take on the burdens of strangers to his own detriment.

Imagine how the people that bet money on Todoroki winning must be feeling right now?

edited 22nd May '15 10:47:08 PM by Chaosjunction

Once again: boo fucking hoo for Bakugo. Bakugo's spent almost all his screentime being an overly superior, occasionally abusive, asshole to everyone because he won a genetic lottery.

He didn't get the victory he wanted? Oh, well, he can suck it up. Bakugo's a prick who isn't worth fighting to the fullest against because not only is he no hero, he's the student further from being a villain and doesn't deserve any grace or courtesy on that. Shoto was not obliged to try his hardest, or be courteous to him (and Bakugo thinking he's entitled to anyone's courtesy is a mite hypocritical to say the least), and had bigger things on his mind.

So, once again, Bakugo freaks like a spoiled child because he doesn't get to show how amazingly perfectly magnificent he is at his fullest. Fuck him.

edited 22nd May '15 10:45:56 PM by Lightysnake

Bakugou's attitude, or how close he is to being a hero or a villain or whatever doesn't matter. Todoroki does have an implied obligation to try his best to win, or what was the point of even competing?

I repeat, if his daddy issues were such a problem, he should have forfeited. That would have been much preferable to Todoroki basically spitting on Bakugou and wasting everyone's time.

As for Bakugou being entitled to anyone's courtesy, it's a funny fact that Bakugou has been much more courteous and respectful of his classmates than Todoroki.

Bakugou might have a foul mouth, but at least he respects his opponents enough to give them his full attention and not look down on them.

edited 22nd May '15 10:58:10 PM by Chaosjunction

Plus, Deku was doing something similarly to Bakugou; goading Todoroki into using all of his powers. Deku just took a longer and more motivational approach to it, but he was talking down Todoroki's "I only need to use half of my power" attitude as a joke and wanted the exact same thing Bakugou did, if for different reasons.

Bakugou is a sporting guy, even if he's a prick about it. He's fair, but pragmatic, he's strategic, if perhaps overly emotional and he's skilled, if not particularly elegant. He wants a good fight, and in a tournament, that's a perfectly understandable desire. Bakugou after his current development seems like he would have accepted defeat (perhaps not gracefully, but I doubt he'd have done any more than complain about his fuckups or something) if he had lost and would have tried to get stronger, but winning against someone who literally wasn't even giving it half of their effort? There's no point to that. I mean, look at the aftermath of his fight with Ochako; everyone else is talking shit about him being an asshole to some allegedly helpless girl, but he (as well as Aizawa, Deku, and a few others) realized she gave it her all and so he did so as well, and fuck what others think. That's how Bakugou shows respect, since being good at fighting and going all out whenever you can are big values for him.

I don't really like saying this, because I've said it before and I don't really want it to seem like I'm trying to force my opinions on you but, again, I think you should really try separating your personal feelings about a character from the events in the story and how things and characters interact with them.

You're entire comment reads like "I hate Bakugou so nothing good should ever happen to him even if they concern things where his personality should have absolutely no consideration."

Because, again, his personality shouldn't even enter into this discussion.

edited 22nd May '15 11:13:50 PM by LSBK

Why does Bakugou deserve to suffer when he hasn't actually done anything wrong after he quit bullying Deku? He's rude, sure, but Todoroki is alsi condescending, Mineta is a creep and a fair number of other students are also dicks or don't take people seriously when they should. Even Bakugou shows respect for his opponents in his own way.

I really don't see why you're so mad at Bakugou here. He doesn't even know about Todoroki's daddy issues, all he knows is that someone just wasted all of his recent efforts by halfassing a fight he was looking forward to.

Just because a person is unpleasant doesn't mean they deserve to suffer at all opportunities.

edited 22nd May '15 10:58:27 PM by Arha

He does know since he overheard the conversation between Todoroki and Deku.

Yeah, he does know, but that really shouldn't change things.

I kind of feel like a mod is going to get called in because it might seem like we're ganging up on Lightysnake.

edited 22nd May '15 11:06:05 PM by LSBK

Oh, he does? Doesn't matter much though.

And Lightysnake is the one swearing and getting upset, so it isn't really our behavior that would be in question if mods came.

edited 22nd May '15 11:06:08 PM by Arha

Calm down, Lightysnake. No one's saying they feel sorry for Bakugou, only that his behavior and that of other characters is understandable and that he's not completely in the wrong. Really, that's the thing about him - he's a great character but also a terrible person.

New translation's out, as opposed to the earlier rush-job we had to work with, and it casts Bakugou in a much more sympathetic light. He's basically trying, in his own abrasive way, to encourage Todoroki to get past his issues and be the mighty superhero he's capable of being, and breaks down when he fails (admittedly, the fact that Deku had better luck with that than him doesn't help).

Yeah, Fallen Angels translation does make it seem like in his own way, Bakugou was trying to help him too.

How?

Good question.

I mean, the only thing this series has in common with Naruto is this thing.

It's one of the few things I like about Naruto, with him passing the torch to his successor in Jump.

Beyond that, it's nothing like Naruto (and if there's a god, it will stay that way).

"Hero Academia is the new Naruto" is a borderline meme at this point.

While that image is supposed to be heartwarming, it makes me cringe.

I'm pretty sure the cringing was the intention.

edited 23rd May '15 11:35:56 AM by OmegaRadiance

Yeah, whether you like or hate Naruto, I'm not sure how you can see that many similarities between it.

The plot and main cast are very, very different expect for vague things like "main character has a dream and rival(s)" and that hardly originated with Naruto.

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Funny. It actually does kinda come off as Heartwarming to me.

Probably because I don't have any fear of Boku No Hero Academia going as badly off the rails as Naruto did.

I mean, it is weird that the series is done and all that, and while I hate everything about it now, I do remember those halcyon days of the big three.

I hope Deku's series is as popular as Naruto, while not becoming total shit the way it did. Because he deserves it.

Still too early to say one way or the other. Who knows how long the author plans on going but a lot of things could go off the rails before then. I hope it doesn't, and I don't think it will because he seems like a pretty good writer, but you never know.

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