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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#676: Jun 24th 2017 at 1:45:11 PM

more hamstatic

...charismatic? I haven't seen Code Geass.

edited 24th Jun '17 1:46:02 PM by Unsung

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#679: Jun 24th 2017 at 2:12:44 PM

Maybe hamtastic makes sense, I don't know the character.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#680: Jun 24th 2017 at 2:49:37 PM

I would disagree on most of that. American writers and actors really are not up to the job.

Actor wise not many Hollywood actors can do the serious ham required to play Zero without making it look silly, those that can are too old and would be more Shakespearean. Writing wise they would screw it up and rewrite most of making it more of a superhero story, like what was done to GITS.

There are very few animes that would make good movies imo. Perfect Blue is really the big one that comes to mind.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#681: Jun 24th 2017 at 3:07:12 PM

I don't think very many Japanese actors could do it either. It's just that there's a far greater acceptance of Camp in Japanese pop culture. The acting isn't a cultural problem, more of a medium one. A lot of things that are common tropes in anime (even things like exaggerated reactions) look really stupid when done in real life.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#682: Jun 26th 2017 at 5:21:33 AM

Eeeerrr...superhero movies are all over the place in the US. The style might vary but Lelouch is not fundamentally different from a Tony Stark or a Peter Quill when it comes to hamminess. You can tweak the tone and the style while keeping Code Geass' essence in a movie that fits Western audiences.

The problem is that so far the movies that managed to succeed among both Western and Eastern audiences often were agressively dumb (but not necessarily bad - Pacific Rim is, as the Honest Trailers put it, either stupidly awesome or awesomely stupid). We still need a "smart movie" that would work both for Eastern and Western audiences. Ghost in the Shell could have been if the writers had understood what made it great in the first place instead of neutering it.

Among other possible animes that could work as movies, I'd like to see someone with a flair for the epic like Cameron giving Princess Mononoke a try. He could make giant wolves and boars believable. Not that Mononoke needs an adaptation because it is perfect as it is. Wolf Children would be interesting too, and this one could fit many different filmmakers, not only AAA ones.

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#684: Jul 25th 2017 at 1:42:39 PM

"You just put out a dumpster fire with a larger, more easily avoidable dumpster fire" is my general take on the twist. [lol]

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
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#685: Jul 26th 2017 at 2:20:17 PM

Oh yeah, I definitely liked that line. As well as their credits scene where they describe the actors/roles instead of naming the actors. That was hilarious.

Nettacki Since: Jan, 2010
#686: Jul 27th 2017 at 1:19:20 PM

So, now that this film is on home video, who here is actually planning on renting/buying it? grin

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#687: Jul 27th 2017 at 6:18:08 PM

Ehhh, not sure. I'll ask my roomie if she wants it, but for me it was a meh.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#688: Jul 27th 2017 at 6:25:18 PM

God no. This just makes me want to go out and buy a collector's edition of the original anime or a boxed set of SAC extra hard, except I don't know the rights exactly, and I don't want to give them money by mistake.

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#689: Jul 27th 2017 at 7:35:23 PM

Is there a Rifftrax? Otherwise no.

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#690: Jul 28th 2017 at 10:45:46 AM

For all its flaws I still liked it and I will eventually by it. I agree that whitewashing and dumbing down the plot sunk it, but everything else was a love letter to the Anime.

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#691: Jul 28th 2017 at 5:43:30 PM

I wasn't feeling the love. There were some shot-for-shot reconstructions in there, but other than the opening credits, they felt pretty rote, like they were throwing a bone to the fans rather than because of the filmmaker's affection for the original.

K2Misfit Since: Oct, 2011
#692: Jul 31st 2017 at 2:25:38 PM

[up][up] Uh, considering the severe lack of philosophy and merely adapting a few scenes, (w/o making sense as Bennett The Sage's review pointed out about the garbagemen,) it'd probably better described as less a "love letter" and more "limerick on a Post-It Note."tongue

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#693: Jul 31st 2017 at 7:57:55 PM

Pfft, it's more like an "u up?" text. tongue

I liked it better when Questionable Casting was called WTH Casting Agency
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#694: Jul 31st 2017 at 8:35:05 PM

[up][up][up][up] They made enough scenes like the anime to fill the trailers and that was about it. It was a nostalgia cash grab and a pretty poor one at that.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#695: Aug 1st 2017 at 6:53:22 AM

[up] Those will be the things I can defend this movie for. I mean, the production crew really did their homework.

Plus, for Motoko, she at least has a living relative compared to the other continuities.

edited 1st Aug '17 6:54:19 AM by HallowHawk

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#696: Aug 1st 2017 at 9:40:23 AM

They didn't do their homework, if they did they would have noticed those scenes had meaning and actually tried to match it.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#697: Aug 1st 2017 at 11:21:46 AM

I still find this movie to be one of the most strange movie experience. You can see the two force clashing. Someone who REALLY did care about the original film. And someone who does not. Both headbutting each other.

I've seen far worst adaptations. And far better ones. But none that ever left me this confused.

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#698: Aug 1st 2017 at 6:39:38 PM

As someone who hasn't seen the anime . . . It was meh. The usual Scarlett Johansson action vehicle with Fanservice and fake damsel in distress scenes. I was affected by it while I watched it, but like most movies these days a mental review leaves it lackluster at best.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#699: Aug 2nd 2017 at 12:32:20 AM

I've heard a term thrown around in some circles calling certain movies the "studio notes version of movie X." I think that basically sums up this film. There is a lot of effort to recreate the look, feel and overall concept of the original anime, but was neutered in an attempt to reach a bigger audience.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#700: Feb 6th 2018 at 11:29:10 AM

Watching this right now (family member decided to check it out on Netflix).

What are the overall thoughts? Never watched much GITS, outside of the first anime movie and one episode of one of the series.

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