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MarquisDev LOVE WINS from somewhere in the West Since: Aug, 2011
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#251: Dec 19th 2014 at 4:33:24 AM

Yet despite all that happened to Karin, I still won't get my money back. She was admittedly badass

I'm thinking the floral/plant theme must have some meaning so perhaps whatever will happen in the ending has something to with it

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#252: Dec 19th 2014 at 4:41:07 AM

^^Seemed like they were allowing Karin's senses to work

aliastheabnormal The king of kongs Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#253: Dec 19th 2014 at 7:12:12 AM

Karin, sorry about last week dude...sad

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#254: Dec 19th 2014 at 6:47:46 PM

Karin, you brave beautiful girl.

^^^"What do you think happens to a flower after it blooms?"

The only thing I can see else being done is that flowers can always bloom again as long as the world exists.

Yeah, it still is pretty shitty.

Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
Rainy Echoes
#255: Dec 20th 2014 at 12:35:13 AM

Episode 11:

  • This episode was filled to the brim with resolve. Itsuki's stalwart resolve, Fu's regained resolve, Togo's resolve to end all, Karin's trail-blazing resolve, and Yuna's resolve to fight for her friends.
  • Yeah, Karin. You truly are...a well-trained Hero... Gh... ...The price you paid was too much...!sadsad
  • Togo needed a time-out in blazing fire. She cooled down enough to go Mankai to test one last hypothesis... Of course, it would've been pretty dumb if the Shinju gave them powers that could slay itself...
  • Now... how will this end!? I've not the faintest cluuuuuue! Save the world! Save your friends! Yuna!!!

edited 20th Dec '14 12:56:45 AM by Diamite

Kotomikun Since: May, 2014
#256: Dec 20th 2014 at 2:51:51 AM

[up][up] Come to think of it, reincarnation is a not-completely-Ass Pull-ish way they could make the ending a bit less depressing. Really not sure where they could be taking this, though. I hope they've thought of something I haven't...

odafangirl Indeed. from Land of Fun and Pain Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#257: Dec 20th 2014 at 8:46:31 PM

Hello hello! Been following the show for a while, really like the direction it's going! In that it destroys me emotionally, but in a good way.

Put me down for a 'Fuck the rules, we're Fixing This' ending. When the lowest point is two episodes from the end, nine times out of ten everything is gonna work out.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#258: Dec 23rd 2014 at 6:49:20 PM

^^Seemed like they were allowing Karin's senses to work

I was watching the scene again, and it seems the threads were actually blocking her arm from being used after the first Mankai. Then one of her legs was wrapped and she stopped using it to kick around after that. So her senses were only working because they were the last two abilities taken away. Sight being lost right after the fight was finished.

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#259: Dec 24th 2014 at 10:54:23 PM

I can't believe that I almost dropped this on episode 2; it's become my favorite anime since Madoka (regardless of Tumblr crying about ableism). Even though it's clearly influenced by PMMM (especially in character design), I think that it's been able to establish its own unique identity.

Did anyone notice that over the course of the series the Inubozaki sisters went from Itsuki completely relying on Fuu to Fuu completely relying on Itsuki?

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odafangirl Indeed. from Land of Fun and Pain Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#260: Dec 25th 2014 at 12:59:02 AM

Eeeh, most of reasonable tumblr is calling it a mixed bag, and I agree. The careful consideration of wheelchair bound life and all the characters attitudes towards Togo are undeniably positive, but the fact that all the disabilities are consequences of the Hero System takes a lot of the normality of it away, which kind of translates into 'All Disabilities Are Unnatural'. Almost definitely not intentional, but still.

Good stuff and bad stuff, basically.

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#261: Dec 25th 2014 at 1:04:04 AM

Why are we judging it entirely on how it handles disabilities?

odafangirl Indeed. from Land of Fun and Pain Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#262: Dec 25th 2014 at 1:12:57 AM

... I'm not? Like literally 5 posts up the page I said I liked it a lot. Things you like can have things you kinda side eye in them.

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Kotomikun Since: May, 2014
#263: Dec 25th 2014 at 1:32:15 AM

The thing is... disabilities aren't like being black, or gay, or what-have-you. Unlike those things, being disabled is an undesirable situation no matter how nice the rest of the world is to you. A disability doesn't (or shouldn't) make you any less of a person, but it still sucks to have one.

Disabilities are unnatural, but they do not make the person who has them unnatural or inhuman and I think this show's done a sufficiently good job portraying them that way. (Instead of pretending they don't exist, or maybe using them for cheap moe points, as in the vast majority of anime.) The "ableism as a direct parallel to any other -ism" concept has gotten a little out of hand.

odafangirl Indeed. from Land of Fun and Pain Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#264: Dec 25th 2014 at 5:57:11 AM

I'm not sure unnatural is the right word to use here, but I get your point. I was just coming at it from my perspective, I still really love Yuki Yunna.

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MoreThanBored Too hot for Tvtropes from The very worst threads Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
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#265: Dec 25th 2014 at 12:38:53 PM

I understand that Tougou being disabled due to being empowered can be a bit problematic, but the series showed that even if the causes were "unnatural," the Hero Club was willing to support her and each other, which I'm assuming is exactly what the ideal situation would be. Even during the freakouts in episode 9 and 10, the entire point was that the rest of the Hero Club were willing to accept their situation because they had each other.

Any thoughts on the ending? For me, a completely happy ending was completely unexpected.

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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#266: Dec 25th 2014 at 3:39:35 PM

I really wonder what their classmates think about the wheelchairs, eyepatches, muteness etc in this group.

I don't entirely understand how everything worked out the way it did. Was Shinju-sama just moved by their positivity? But I am happy we got a happy ending. Wonder how Togo's friend is doing.

Lots of weird things in this show that could be addressed, like the parents in addition to the classmates, but it was still a really nice show.

edited 25th Dec '14 3:39:55 PM by Ruise

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#267: Dec 25th 2014 at 3:53:57 PM

The text message from Taisha says that the Vertex attacks have been delayed "indefinitely," and so it may just be as simple as Shinju not needing the girls anymore; since the girls ended their connection to Shinju they regained the things it took from them. Also, the bonus chapter of the LN shows the Taisha trying to get Sonoko to stop Tougou, and Sonoko almost literally tells them to fuck off; it's implied that the Taisha realized that they had screwed themselves by not being transparent with the girls, and so maybe they made an appeal to Shinju for them at the end.

The ending for me definitely went way too fast; I'm fine with the conclusion they reached, but I think they could've handled it a lot better if they had another 30 minutes. It lowered my opinion of the anime a bit, but I'm still glad I watched it. The "Yuuki Yuuna Chapter End" at the very end makes me strongly suspect that this isn't the end.

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#268: Dec 25th 2014 at 5:00:59 PM

To me the ending felt like the show prioritizing what it wanted to; Recovery. They could have used another episode and maybe allocating that fanservice one to a half episode thing may have evened it out, but at the end of the day I was incredibly happy with this show's focus on aftermath. It felt very much like a narrative about actual soldiers to me, ones that go in wide eyed and ready to fight for all the right reasons but get turned around by the higher ups lying (for good reasons), the consequences of battle, and how it never ever ends.

All in all, incredibly glad I watched it, and I hope that it inspires generations of kids to recognize hardship and be good to each other through it.

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#269: Dec 25th 2014 at 5:50:33 PM

What a disappointing ending.

Going back to happy times is not bad, but not like this.

odafangirl Indeed. from Land of Fun and Pain Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#270: Dec 25th 2014 at 6:03:23 PM

Can't say I agree with you there, man.

Also, forgot to mention my favorite moment. Togo... LETS SEE YOU GRIT THOSE TEETH!!!!

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jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#271: Dec 25th 2014 at 6:25:29 PM

So many feels this episode, damn

Basically the Shinju just convinced the other gods to stop being dicks?

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#272: Dec 25th 2014 at 6:57:58 PM

I think it's more that the Hero Club defeated so many Vertex that the other gods won't have anything to throw at humanity for a really long time. I think Karin mentions that the world outside is still the same, but it looks like humanity earned itself a long reprieve at the very least.

The action scene was actually really well done imo. I legitimately cheered out loud when Karin just flew in out of nowhere, and at Yuuna making Tougou grit those teeth. But the part where everyone recovers from their disabilities seemed really rushed to me. I think I would've preferred it if the series had ended with Yuuna still in a wheelchair but having hope that she'll recover someday. The cultural festival was a really great way to cap it off though.

The more I think about the episode, the more I feel like this isn't the end. I don't quite buy that Yuuna just "got a bit dizzy" during the cultural festival, and Yuuna's been known to hide her own problems so as not to worry people. It isn't really explained why Yuuna took so much time to recover, although I'm willing to chalk that up to the Sange taking her perception or something like that. And the ending card showed "Yuuki Yuuna Chapter End," which is either referencing Washio Sumi Wa Yuusha De Aru as a prequel "chapter" or hints that the story isn't finished yet.

edited 25th Dec '14 6:58:57 PM by MoreThanBored

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#273: Dec 25th 2014 at 7:04:58 PM

Episode 12. In which Yuuna x Tougou saves everything

So, a pretty good ending. Thematically appropriate, but managed to avoid feeling like too much of an Ass Pull, and made it clear they worked for it. In particular, I felt like Yuuna's fate was well done. Main gripe is that Yuuna and Tougou never actually made it official despite their feelings being really obvious

Series overall: Quite good. Definitely towards the top of my list for the year, and it's been a fairly good year. Main issue is that they spent too much time teasing that something bad was going to happen. And characters not named "Yuuna" or "Tougou" were underused

Stuff in response to other posts here:

I'm pretty certain what happened in that they killed so many Vertex that the attacks have stopped for the foreseeable future, meaning that the heroes aren't necessary. I'm not certain how this was too fast— it was about as coherent as any climax I've seen

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#274: Dec 25th 2014 at 7:28:25 PM

The biggest problem was that Yuuna and Togo didn't kiss. There was just so much tension...

I didn't get what they were referring to with the "Yuuna Chapter" text at the end, but yeah, having more stories in the works is the most logical explanation. Cool.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
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#275: Dec 25th 2014 at 7:42:22 PM

If it makes you feel any better, they kinda almost kiss in the VN. It's for a play, but Tougou leans in and closes her eyes and everything, and afterwards demands that they practice the scene 10 times afterward. Later she even tells Yuuna that doing a romance scene came naturally because it was with her. Of course, Yuuna is completely oblivious throughout it all...

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