I actually agree with you. While I still enjoy the cartoons from the late 30s, I noticed how cute it go. I mean, i enjoy cuteness, but this is Popeye we're talking about! It's supposed to look rough! By 1940, almost all Popeye shorts were "meets so and so" without the good old spinach! They were also given big eyes and became even more soft!
I really hate the decline that Fleischer cartoons went through. It's sad.
edited 3rd Oct '14 7:32:05 AM by teddy
Supports cartoons being cartoony!
To be fair, Rango had I think at least one character smoking and it got away with a PG rating…
The Fleischers were great when they did their own thing. It was around 1934 and onward when they started aping Disney that they started going downhill—Popeye held out strong until the studio moved to Miami around 1938, and the series got more hit or miss from there on. The Fleischers real nadir was the 1939-1940 period; they made some of their worst cartoons during that time, like the Stone Age, Animated Antics and Gabby cartoons, even though the animation was finally catching up with the west coast studios skill wise. The third Popeye color special was a misfire, and Gulliver's Travels was an entertaining, but helter skelter kind of film. They found their footing again by the time they made the Superman Theatrical Cartoons and Mr Bug Goes To Town, but by then it was too little, too late before Paramount ousted the brothers from their own studio and turned it into Famous Studios.
edited 3rd Oct '14 8:06:55 AM by TheBeanerItWas
Fantastic Mr Fox had a lot of smoking and was PG.
Looking for some stories?It probably helps that it's a pipe rather than a cigar or cigarette. They may be near exclusively used for smoking, but there's still more leeway there since you don't get anything out of an empty pipe.
There are indeed ways around it.
- They could state early in the film that there's nothing in it but air. That way he can still do the toot for the theme song.
- He could blow bubbles instead.
- He could only use it for a one-off gag and then drop it for the rest of the film.
Maybe Pappy at least can get his own pipe, since he's not a character kids are supposed to identify with in the first place (an ill tempered deadbeat, when not outright abusive, curmudgeon). Villains and secondaries more or less on the dark side tend to get away with smoking more easily.
This may be wishful thinking, but does anybody think they'll talk more about the Popeye movie at this year's New York Comic Con?
I'm not sure if Sony has a booth. I know they don't have a panel!
Wow. $100 says this is connected to the fuckin' pipe.
"We be we baby!"How goddamned depressing.
And it could have been genuinely great, too.
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."Enjoy your one minute of online animation.
Maybe the new prez isn't an uber-fan of Popeye?
In that case, wow, someone's being a total bitch.
It's Sony being Sony.
It's ALWAYS Sony.
Then in that case, it's Sony being a total bitch.
Well, I'd suggest forming an angry mob directed at Sony in retaliation...but that's insane.
Curse you, Friday the 13th for being associated with bad luck!!!!
EDIT: Also, kyun, why'd you say you were tired in your earlier post?
edited 13th Mar '15 8:11:11 AM by TargetmasterJoe
fuck you sony this movie could have been amazing.
Awwww. I really wanted to see it.
I express my depressed emotions toward this news.
We all did, Soup. We all did.
Oh that's why you said you were tired? Ah.
edited 13th Mar '15 8:37:45 AM by TargetmasterJoe
Well, at least, according to the article, Genndy is now working on his original idea, so there's that.
Just a person. He/him.What a serious waste of talent.
I mean seriously, that animation test was beautiful, I would had loved to see Gennedy's take on Popeye. But I guess his direction didn't have enough toilet jokes to be Smurfs 3 a la mode, or was designed to lead into a cinematic universe. >.>
edited 13th Mar '15 3:37:51 PM by Yeow95
has a clue, but it's usually not the correct one 0.55% of the timeBUT IT'S NOT POPEYE! Goddamn, I even was going to do a review month in honor of the new movie.
edited 13th Mar '15 3:37:50 PM by NegaKingKix
"We be we baby!"I observe that no one said it was "killed". A Pop-eye movie could still get made under someone one else. ... but part of the reason why I had high hopes for the idea was that Genndy was on it! And he would've saved the entire thing using his own trademark animation style and storyboarding!
It's a children/family movie. Pipes are pretty much always used for smoking. They will IN NO WAY EVER bring the pipe back. I guarantee you.
edited 3rd Oct '14 7:22:04 AM by kyun