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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#4051: Jan 29th 2018 at 9:16:29 PM

It was, wasn't it?

That might be the best version of the suit. It's more like an Iron Man suit than the Lexo-suit.

One Strip! One Strip!
32ndfreeze (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4052: Jan 30th 2018 at 2:17:50 AM

So the implication there was Lena may have been the one to attempt to assassinate both her and Edge?

At least I think that's what they were leaving open.

I really liked this episode. I thought it was very strong. And the way Mon El helped out at the end was really cool.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#4053: Jan 30th 2018 at 3:41:59 AM

[up] I understood it as Lillian trying to murder Edge with the car because he did try to kill her daughter a few episodes back, then Edge trying to poison Lena, with Lillian getting rid of the poisoner while leaving a clue only Lena could possibly follow - so that only Lena would know the truth, and she could try to have her turn to the dark side.

Izeinsummer Since: Jan, 2015
#4054: Jan 30th 2018 at 4:09:30 AM

,,, Which makes no sense. If it was Edges murder plot, why would Lillians agents clean it up for him? Were they.. .trying to keep him out of prison? But murdering people in jail is not difficult for organized crime! I did like the lesson Lena took away from this episode, but I worry about the writers ability to carry off a genuinely high-end intellect being clever, because.. uhm. Well.

edited 30th Jan '18 4:11:27 AM by Izeinsummer

Nexus Since: Jan, 2001
#4055: Jan 30th 2018 at 4:40:44 AM

Yeah, it would've made a lot more sense if Lillian was the one who poisoned Lena as a Batman Gambit to make Lena kill Edge in retaliation, and it's kinda odd that they didn't go that route.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#4056: Jan 30th 2018 at 4:41:17 AM

Easy. Lillian wanted an opportunity to make Lena believe in her warped positions, but she could not try to convince her if Lena chased (and possibly caught) Morgan Edge the traditional, "goody-two-shoes" way. So instead of letting Team Supergirl interrogate the poisoner who might have led them to Edge or not, she killed him, knowing that only Lena could reach her.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4057: Jan 30th 2018 at 11:04:33 AM

"Don't grab women"

Um, Kara, keeping you out of an event you have no business being in is not the same as harassment. The guy wasn't even being excessive.

Writers your show has been accused of co-opting feminism to hide bad writing. Please don't prove the critiques right.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#4058: Jan 30th 2018 at 1:39:13 PM

Usually guys get a respectful hand on the abdomen in these situations. Here he actually picked the Standard Female Grab Area.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#4059: Jan 30th 2018 at 1:53:29 PM

[up][up]Yeah, that and giving no shit about a drone endangering a crowd and killing a security guard was quite the unheroic thing for Kara to do this episode.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4060: Jan 30th 2018 at 8:58:02 PM

[up][up]which is still very tame. Her reaction is incredibly disprotionate, even when you ignore how much stronger than him she is.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#4061: Jan 31st 2018 at 5:08:18 AM

I doubt anyone's seriously critiqued the feminism in this show anyway.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#4062: Feb 1st 2018 at 4:59:51 AM

[up][up] Aside from the fact that she was on a mission, it is one of the little things where women are not treated like men. She reacted to it because it pissed her off, she overreacted to it because the guy was blocking her and she needed to be able to watch over Lena.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#4063: Feb 1st 2018 at 10:45:28 AM

I'd think that, on a woman, a "respectful hand to the abdomen" would be taken worse than grabbing the arm, since it's so close to "bathing suit areas".

Also, one of the other security guards at the party was totally gunned down, right? Since Lena knew the attack was coming but did nothing to stop it, isn't she like an accessory or something?

edited 1st Feb '18 2:33:11 PM by RavenWilder

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#4064: Feb 1st 2018 at 10:52:05 AM

I think they meant "respectful hand on the shoulder." I've never seen a guard grab someone by the abdomen, male or female. It's just a weird place to grab someone.

Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
This is a title.
#4065: Feb 1st 2018 at 10:52:42 AM

[up][up]Well, she did warn Edge to bugger off before Lillian attacked. I guess she could have done more but A for effort.

edited 1st Feb '18 10:52:55 AM by Eagal

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#4066: Feb 5th 2018 at 5:36:03 PM

Ugh... please tell me they're not doing the "I've got a wife, but my feelings for the main character are so much more real" thing with Mon-El.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
This is a title.
#4067: Feb 5th 2018 at 6:14:05 PM

It's the CW. I wouldn't put it past them.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#4068: Feb 5th 2018 at 9:40:04 PM

So, has Lena actually figured out what's going on?

Does she know what's her name is Reign?

One Strip! One Strip!
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#4069: Feb 5th 2018 at 9:53:55 PM

For once I think the Love Triangle makes sense. I don't enjoy it but given the circumstances Mon-El has a reason to be confused and to have trouble sorting his feelings out.

And now, a two-months break, made quite obvious by the two ending cliffhangers. Which felt strange as the episode wasn't exactly climactic.

Still, the more the show goes, the more I love Lena. Even though it doesn't look likely, I don't think I could watch the show if she ended up turning evil.

edited 5th Feb '18 9:56:24 PM by Julep

32ndfreeze (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4070: Feb 6th 2018 at 2:50:40 AM

The love triangle does make sense.

But I still would 10X prefer Mon El to work though his feelings with Imra and not breakup with her to get back with Kara.

Oh, I didn't realize we were on hiatus now.

I though this was a pretty great episode though.

But Alex was super unsympathetic this episode.

If this wasn't a CW show she really should get some kind of therapy once someone notices her.

I'm pretty sure acting like that towards a prisoner because of a breakup is super not okay for her position.

EDIT: I also thought Purity was really good. I look forward to seeing both her regular side and Worldkiller side after the break.

edited 6th Feb '18 2:56:18 AM by 32ndfreeze

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#4071: Feb 6th 2018 at 5:38:36 AM

PLEASE don't make me hate Mon-El again. Since his return, I have actually grown to like him, due to Character Development and his much more organic relationship with Imra.

If they actually go back to Kara x Mon-El, I'm gonna be really mad.

edited 6th Feb '18 11:50:26 AM by Forenperser

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4072: Feb 6th 2018 at 9:39:55 AM

Did anyone involved in this show think that Alex acting like a trigger happy maniac towards a black woman and suffering no consequences was perhaps not a good image right now? And having it be over Maggie was just dumb.

edited 6th Feb '18 9:40:23 AM by windleopard

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#4073: Feb 6th 2018 at 9:45:19 AM

I've never been a huge fan of this show's love of "I've suffered romantic troubles, so now I'm an asshole" for it's characters in general.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
LadyMomus Since: Apr, 2009
#4074: Feb 6th 2018 at 9:51:06 AM

[up][up] This isn't the first time Alex has used excessive force or engaged in police brutality. (Although the other times it was against white men.) I used to really like Alex, but the way she's being written is starting to make me really uncomfortable.

The only time her bad behavior really got acknowledged was when she was suspended from the DEO for part of an episode. And even then, J'onn apologized to her when it really should have been the other way around.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#4075: Feb 6th 2018 at 11:51:18 AM

Yeah, Alex has a track record of letting her emotions get the better of her and acting very un-hero like.

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