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#26: Sep 10th 2014 at 8:42:00 PM

I've read on an article that a large chunk of the prejudice against Pygmies comes from the archaic belief that they posses some sort of "dark supernatural powers".

Quite similar to the belief that albino bones bring luck & wealth. Which has led to the death and mutilation of hundrends of thousands of albino people in Africa.

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#27: Sep 10th 2014 at 8:53:15 PM

[up]Reading that made my ribs hurt, of all places.

In the Republic of Congo, where Pygmies make up 2% of the population, many Pygmies live as slaves to Bantu masters. The nation is deeply stratified between these two major ethnic groups. The Pygmy slaves belong from birth to their Bantu masters in a relationship that the Bantus call a time-honored tradition. Even though the Pygmies are responsible for much of the hunting, fishing and manual labor in jungle villages, Pygmies and Bantus alike say Pygmies are often paid at the master's whim; in cigarettes, used clothing, or even nothing at all. As a result of pressure from UNICEF and human-rights activists, a law that would grant special protections to the Pygmy people is awaiting a vote by the Congo parliament.[27][28]

As of 2007!

Raja James Sheshardi of the American University conducted a case study on the Pygmies of Africa and concluded that deforestation has greatly affected their everyday lives. Pygmy culture is threatened today by the forces of political and economic change. In recent times, this has manifested itself into an open conflict over the resources of the tropical rain-forest, it is a conflict that the Pygmy are losing.

Historically, the Pygmy have always been viewed as inferior by both colonial authorities and the village dwelling Bantu tribes.[30] This has translated into systematic discrimination. One early example was the capture of Pygmy children during the period of the Congo Free State, which exported Pygmy children to zoos throughout Europe, including the world's fair in the United States in 1907.[30] Pygmies are often evicted from their land and given the lowest paying jobs. At a state level, Pygmies are not considered citizens by most African states and are refused identity cards, deeds to land, health care and proper schooling.[citation needed] Government policies and multinational corporations involved in massive deforestation have exacerbated this problem by forcing more Pygmies out of their traditional homelands and into villages and cities where they often are marginalized, impoverished and abused by the dominant culture.[citation needed]

Today there are roughly 500,000 Pygmies left in the rain-forest of Central Africa.[30] This population is under threat as poverty, intermarriage with Bantu peoples, Westernization, and deforestation all gradually destroy their way of life and culture along with their genetic uniqueness.

The greatest environmental problem facing Pygmies seems to be the loss of their traditional homeland, the tropical forests of Central Africa. In several countries such as Cameroon, Gabon, Central African Republic and the Republic of Congo this is due to deforestation and the desire of several governments in Central Africa to evict the Pygmies from their forest homeland in order to cash in on quick profits from the sale of hardwood and the resettlement of farmers onto the cleared land. In some cases, as in Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, this conflict is violent. Certain groups, such as the Hutus of the Interahamwe, wish to eliminate the Pygmy and take the resources of the forest as a military conquest, using the resources of the forest for military as well as economic advancement.[30] Since the Pygmies rely on the forest for their physical as well as cultural survival, as these forests disappear, so do the Pygmy.

A family from a Ba Aka pygmy village Along with Raja Sheshardi, the fPcN-Global.org website had conducted research on the pygmies. The human rights organization states that as the forest has receded under logging activities, its original inhabitants have been pushed into populated areas to join the formal economy, working as casual laborers or on commercial farms and being exposed to new diseases.[31] This shift has brought them into closer contact with neighboring ethnic communities whose HIV levels are generally higher. This has led to the spread of HIV/AIDS into the pygmy group.

Since poverty has become very prevalent in the Pygmy communities, sexual exploitation of indigenous women has become a common practice. Commercial sex has been bolstered by logging, which often places large groups of male laborers in camps which are set up in close contact with the Pygmy communities.

Human rights groups have also reported widespread sexual abuse of indigenous women in the conflict-ridden eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo. Despite these risks, Pygmy populations generally have poor access to health services and information about HIV. The British medical journal, The Lancet, published a review showing that Pygmy populations often had worse access to health care than neighboring communities.[32] According to the report, even where health care facilities exist, many people do not use them because they cannot pay for consultations and medicines, they do not have the documents and identity cards needed to travel or obtain hospital treatment, and they are subjected to humiliating and discriminatory treatment.[31]

Studies in Cameroon and ROC in the 1980s and 1990s showed a lower prevalence of HIV in pygmy populations than among neighboring ones, but recent increases have been recorded. One study found that the HIV prevalence among the Baka pygmies in eastern Cameroon went from 0.7% in 1993 to 4% in 2003.[31]

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#28: Sep 10th 2014 at 8:56:25 PM

Here's an interesting article regarding the albino prosecution

I once saw an interview of an albino survivor. He described how the witch doctors & their gangs would often lay siege to houses, demanding from families to surrender their albino members so they would chop-em up. Mind you, they usually didn't bother to kill their victims. Before or after the deed.

edited 10th Sep '14 9:01:16 PM by LogoP

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#29: Sep 10th 2014 at 9:03:20 PM

I'm still having trouble believing that Medicine Murder is actually a thing.

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#30: Sep 10th 2014 at 9:05:07 PM

Yep. What's worse is that, at times, the victim's own family may be the ones to mutilate him/her.

This is also an interesting video.

edited 10th Sep '14 9:13:19 PM by LogoP

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#31: Feb 1st 2015 at 12:27:41 AM

There seems to be a genocide going on in West Papua as we speak!

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#32: Feb 1st 2015 at 7:15:36 AM

I don't know what's worse: the fact that it's not the first time Indonesians do something like this (or try to do something) - e.g. Timor-Leste, or the fact that Australia backs them.

edited 1st Feb '15 7:16:00 AM by Quag15

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#33: Feb 1st 2015 at 7:17:16 AM

Unlike with ISIS, that Australia's backing them means that Western governments can actually effectively counter this, if they manage to get off their hypocritical asses.

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#34: Feb 1st 2015 at 7:54:09 AM

Why are they even doing this? Is it out of genuine racial hatred or the Indonesians want to make a quick land grab for developement purposes?

Or is it because of this?

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#35: Feb 1st 2015 at 8:03:18 AM

[up]In terms of recent events, it's the latter, though I wouldn't rule out the former two from the list.

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#36: Feb 1st 2015 at 8:06:17 AM

Yeah, I mean, the Papuans must have a good reason to want to secede so badly.

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#37: Feb 2nd 2015 at 8:34:41 AM

The Papuans never wanted to be in in the first place.

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#38: Feb 18th 2015 at 7:01:24 AM

Might be nitpicking, but the thread title is missing at least one comma for improved readability, i.e. it should be either "Institutionalized Racism, Discrimination and Ethnic Cleansing Worldwide" or "Institutionalized Racism, Discrimination, and Ethnic Cleansing Worldwide".

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#39: Feb 18th 2015 at 9:11:31 AM

Doesn't it depend on if it's written in British or American English?

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#40: Apr 12th 2015 at 7:46:18 AM

The Pope has called the killing of Armenians by the Ottomans as genocide. With predictable responses from the Turks, namely summoning their envoy from the Vatican.

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#41: Apr 12th 2015 at 8:00:25 AM

Why was it that they couldn't own up to it, again? Something about territory restitution? Who the heck would try to force them to? Or is it one of them "polite fictions"?

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#42: Apr 12th 2015 at 8:04:36 AM

It will always sound hollow.

"Sorry about the genocide, guys."

"OK, you're forgiven, can we please have Mt. Ararat back?"

"...no."

And then there's this:

What the weak Western European civilization alleges about me, does not matter. I have given the order – and will have everyone shot who utters but one word of criticism – that the aim of this war does not consist in reaching certain designated lines, but in the enemies' physical elimination. Thus, for the time being only in the east, I put ready my Death's Head units, with the order to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of the Polish race or language. Only thus will we gain the living space that we need. Who still talks nowadays of the extermination of the Armenians?

- Adolf Hitler, Obersalzburg, 22nd August 1939.

edited 12th Apr '15 8:08:49 AM by Achaemenid

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#43: Apr 12th 2015 at 8:12:10 AM

I can't parse your point...

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#44: Apr 14th 2015 at 4:40:28 AM

[up]A successful genocide simply becomes the 'facts on the ground', and is tacitly accepted by the world.

What's precedent ever done for us?
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#45: Apr 25th 2015 at 9:13:10 AM

It wasn’t just the Armenians: The other 20th century massacres we ignore

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#46: Apr 25th 2015 at 9:26:25 AM

[up]

I'm always suspicious when people say something is being "ignored", because its often not true. The Holodomor, for example, has been extensively commemorated, especially during the Cold War, when it was used as another example of Red barbarism. Japanese denial of the Nanking massacre is extensively reported.

While the horrors committed by Nazi Germany are well known, what's lesser acknowledged is what happened to the Germans scattered in Eastern Europe after Germany lost the war.

Perhaps that's because German victims of expulsion are not in the same category as the victims of German genocide and empire-building?

Suharto's killings, however, probably do deserve to be on that list, although because they were primarily political they don't get the moniker genocide which seems to draw attention.

edited 25th Apr '15 9:27:59 AM by Achaemenid

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#47: Apr 25th 2015 at 9:33:29 AM

The killings of Assyrians and Greeks have been sweeped under the rug, though. While it's certainly true that they didn't reach the extent of the Armenian Genocide, the numbers were still petty high. Often exceeding the 500,000 mark.

Yet you hardly hear about them. Even in days like this.

edited 25th Apr '15 9:35:11 AM by LogoP

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#48: Apr 25th 2015 at 9:42:38 AM

Perhaps. I remember being taught about them when we studied WWI in school, although it was generally in the aid of proving that the Ottomans were of barbaric kebab and Gallipoli was in some way heroic. I suppose the world is not Scotland though.

edited 25th Apr '15 9:43:24 AM by Achaemenid

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#49: Apr 25th 2015 at 9:46:00 AM

You'd think the Greeks would make a point of raising a stink over it, but it seems like they don't hope to gain territory from Turkey acknowledging it, which I'm told (by Turks) is the main reason Turkey refuses to acknowledge the Armenians'; because they don't want to give land to Armenia.

Apparently, just invoking the accomplished fact on the ground and saying "we killed your ancestors for this land and won't give it back" isn't an option, for some reason. Which kind of puzzles me. The Israeli do it without shame or guilt, among many, many others.

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#50: Apr 25th 2015 at 9:57:15 AM

[up] The Pontian Genocide is widely remembered and acknowledged throughout Greece.note  There's even a remembrance day for it.

The reasons it's not as widely acknowledged are plenty. In addition to it simply not reaching the grand scale of the Armenian one.

However, territory has nothing to do with it. All land disputes between Greece & Turkey, that don't involve useless, tiny rocks on the far east side of the Aegean, were solved by the mid-1930s.

edited 25th Apr '15 9:58:16 AM by LogoP

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