Fifty Shades of Grey, the Film of the Infamous Book

So, this movie's been in development for some time now, and as of 4 days ago, they've finally released a trailer for it. Apparently, Universal are aiming for the film to be tame compared to the book, focusing more on "romance" than "erotica" according to a Guardian article.

Here's the trailer. It's SFW, I hope.

The Media Watchdogs in the US have already come out to complain about it, and perhaps rightly so if the stuff I've read about the book are of any indication.

I would be rather shocked if, instead, the film somehow took the book, and adapted out all of its issues and neatly patched up all the problems.

I doubt they'd ever do that. 50 Shades was only ever popular when people realized how bad it was.

Watch this instead. It's far more entertaining:

Also, isn't Fifty Shades Of Grey kind of Deader Than Disco at this point?

edited 28th Jul '14 4:59:02 PM by Aldo930

Like I've said, and as indicated by this article from March of this year, it's highly likely that they will tone down the sexual content of the book to the point where it will focus more on "romance than erotica," which might remove at least 50% of the problems the book had. But considering those were early verdicts, maybe the finished product would be different and it could be somewhere in the middle of two extremes.

Yeah, I was wondering how this was ever agreed on to be made considering its content.

Which is interesting considering that I hear the book itself is already pretty tame as far as erotica goes.

So most erotica is worse?!

More romance than erotica? My answer to that is "What romance?" Most of what goes on in that book is textbook abuse.

But it's twoo wuuuuuuv!

Pfft. Please. Someone breaking into your house and raping you for a petty reason isn't love.

You'll be surprised how many people would be in to that.

Most erotica is better written than 50 shades of grey.

As for this movie, if I ever see it, it will be only for riffing.

What romance? The entire thing was so erotically charged that there wasn't any romance. Removing the erotica (IF you can even call it that) leaves you with nothing.

edited 28th Jul '14 8:00:46 PM by lancesolous13

Methinks they'll add in more "romantic" scenes to make up for the erotic stuff lost.

I wonder how much the author's going to bitch about them toning down her work like that.

Back when they first started shooting, I remember reading an article that said she was pretty much trying to bully them into making no changes.

To be fair, I think most authors would be very defensive about their work being adapted. I mean, there ARE some changes I understand that need to be made because of the medium, such as the creation of the Wybe character in Coraline which Neil Gaiman himself gave his blessing on because they needed someone for Coraline to voice her opinion to instead of talking to herself which... doesn't really work.

However, look at all the changes J.K. Rowling had to fight for in the HP Movies (Example, Kreatcher was almost not even in the 5th movie until Jo insisted he needed to be there because of Boook 7) and there were STILL so many plot elements that were deleted, pasted back in, retcon'd, or turned into a massive plot hole such as...

• The Two-Way Mirror is just suddenly there in Movie 7 with no explanation.

• The Valentine's Day Cupids were removed from Chamber of Secrets, so how Ginny found out Harry had the Diary is a mystery.

• Barty Crouch Jr. was taken into custody at the end of Goblet of Fire, but the 5th film revolves around no one believing Harry that Voldemort has returned. The book explains that Barty Jr. was kissed by a Dementor and thus couldn't testify, but the film offers no such information and Barty himself just drops out of the plot.

Amongst several other issues...

Like I said, even IF this is an adaptation the SEVERELY needs a lot of changes in the book-to-film process, I can't fault an author for wanting to maintain their vision considering how delicate a story structure can be.

Then again, I've never read the book so idfk how 'delicate' the story structure (assuming there is one) for this book is so...

I'm so excited for this movie to come out and teach tons of impressionable young women that it's okay for a man to abuse them and fuck them without consent. And also teach a tone of people looking to get into BDSM that stuff like ignoring safewords and consent is A-OK.

Fuck this movie. Fuck the book it was based on. Fuck the director. Fuck the actors. Fuck the author. Fuck everything and everyone involved.

edited 28th Jul '14 11:20:24 PM by Mukora

I don't blame the actors and directors so much as, well, its just a job for them.

The people who made this movie go into productions however....

I knew about safewords and slow words - they both exist and have separate functions (safe word = fucking stop right now, slow words = can we take this a bit easier, I'm getting a bit scared here - and any top who doesn't comply with them needs shooting. Literally.) years and years ago. I knew about their importance in making sure that BDSM play, and it should be play, is safe, sane and consensual. There's tonnes of stories out there that are a teaching tool in how not to get yourself killed by a psychopath who thinks that he or she is a proper dom, by setting good and bad examples of doms and subs and their relationships in-story. And how important it is to take proper action if things go wrong.

How the fuck can a writer with access to writer friends and a computer that has a search engine or three in its internet capabilities, NOT know how vital such things as those concepts are?

I think the writer must have gone along the lines of the Sleeping Beauty books by Anne Rice, without understanding the fundamental things about the universe that Rice created, i.e, it was fucked morally and psychologically, but Rice could handle the material, and it wasn't really portrayed as something you would actually want to be part of. Here's a link to the wiki page on the books. It's a bit gushing, but what can you do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sleeping_Beauty_Trilogy

This writer's work, on the other hand? Well, something along the lines of what the Ordo Hereticus would say to a heretic comes to mind.

And the film? Yeah, not going to see it. The stars, crew, directors, producers, distributors and publicity people should be ashamed of themselves.

See, that's the thing, though. I'm an actor. But even if they offered me a million trillion dollars to do this pile of shit movie, I wouldn't. The whole thing is morally repugnant. I wouldn't be able to look myself in the mirror if I played even a slight part in letting this garbage see the light of day.

I don't think the writer didn't know what safe words were. She totally did. She just decided to have the cunt of a male lead ignore them. And then just play it off as him being "In charge" and "powerful" and other such shit.

If that's the case, if she really knew what those words mean, how important they are to avoid people getting literally KILLED in a bad scene and refused to use them, she needs to be jailed.

Seriously.

Lock her up and don't just throw away the key, weld the door to the frame and brick up the entrance. It's beyond criminal. Don't bother putting her on trial or any of that namby pamby "she has rights, blood" stuff. She stands convicted out of her own word processor.

If on the other hand she's just ignorant and wanted some Twilight money but didn't fancy getting humped over by Meyer's lawyers then she needs to be put in a mental institution. Those in the "straight" world may think I'm kidding on or over-stating the case for skittles and giggles, but, well, I am so not doing so. You may have noticed I haven't sworn once in this post. That's how strongly I feel about this matter.

Safe words and slow words are a fundamental right to any sub, and any dom who doesn't respect them needs to stop being an oxygen thief. And every one who hasn't any experience of, or knowledge of, the BDSM scene, thanks to this film and the books that inspired it, thinks that that is how things should be done?

But, the thing is, EVENTUALLY, They would have found actors for them. SOME actor would be desperate enough for A role. And there's no such thing as Bad Publicity, as they say. And, as it is, any flaws with their character in the film will probably be thrown off as issues with writing and direction and source material, while the actors are less likely to be blamed.

I think it's telling that they cast a guy who's most recent role was as a serial killer as Christian Grey. And before that, a guy who's best known TV role was a violent biker Hamlet (though he probably was one of the more moral characters on SOA).

edited 29th Jul '14 5:40:24 AM by Sisi

From what I heard about the book, the male lead is ten times worse than Edward Cullen.

Is the trailer deliberately creepy as all fuck?

edited 29th Jul '14 5:51:23 AM by Achaemenid