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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#4601: Jan 28th 2017 at 11:45:18 AM

The demons blown up were civillians. So they weren't going around doing terrible deeds. It's not like the other races have all of their kind going around kicking puppies either.

And the humans will likely fuck up soon considering Glox and his sister hate humans.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#4602: Jan 28th 2017 at 11:53:52 AM

Also, I feel the need to mention that, although most demons probably aren't as evil as the Ten Commandments, that doesn't mean they don't consider being evil a good quality.

It's not uncommon for things like this to have the "evil races" look at that as a virtue, even if they acknowledge that they themselves aren't super evil. They just look up to the ones who are.

It's why Meliodas being the "evilest demon" is such a big deal and probably a big part of why everyone thought he deserved to be the next Demon King.

TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#4603: Jan 28th 2017 at 3:43:32 PM

In other words we need more So L with the demons.

edited 28th Jan '17 3:43:48 PM by TrueShadow1

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#4604: Jan 28th 2017 at 4:32:23 PM

Or have them try a bit harder to unseal their brethren.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#4605: Jan 29th 2017 at 7:37:29 AM

Latest chapter is up:

Well, now we know why Derriere is so pissed at the Goddesses, especially Elizabeth. And she's not exactly the type to be convinced it was a misunderstanding...

I'm guessing we're gonna find out what Ban's ancestor did to get Gloxinia and his sister so mad at humans next chapter.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#4606: Jan 29th 2017 at 10:29:14 AM

I wouldn't believe her either.

I wonder what soul eating actually does to the soul? The author is trying to portray the demons as reasonably sympathetic but then has Galan talking about wanting to eat Elizabeth's soul. I don't doubt that it kills you, but maybe that's it and then the soul just gets crapped out or whatever back into the reincarnation cycle/the afterlife or whatever.

edited 29th Jan '17 10:30:11 AM by Arha

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#4607: Jan 29th 2017 at 11:29:32 AM

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Nor would I. Not after that other dude showed up like he did.

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#4608: Jan 29th 2017 at 11:32:23 AM

Eating soul causes it to be completely destroyed. It was explained when Ban fought Galan.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#4609: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:37:46 PM

I've said before that I figure this is all going to end with peace with everyone, but that can't happen if you whitewash what the demons have done and try and make the goddesses out to be the evilest things ever.

Is this a terrible thing to do? Yes. Should it be taken as a reflection on all of them? It would be very unfair to treat it that way.

By the same token, while we shouldn't assume all demons totally pure evil, they do eat people's souls, and there really is no way to not make that terrible. And unlike with vampires and blood, it's clear they don't have to do it, they just like to.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#4610: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:46:18 PM

We have only seen the armies being actually villainous and doing that.

Just with Rudo's plan alone Three Archangels happily participated in a plan to kill loads of civillians.

Plus if Evil is a virtue amongst demons the Civillians probably see it the way Disgaea demons view evil. Which if they do means stuff like Rape is viewed as reprehensible.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#4611: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:50:35 PM

Forgive me I don't assume that only warriors like eating souls.

Edit: And also, we should just assume the Ten Commandments don't represent all of Demon Society, but that the Four Archangels do represent all of Goddess Society?

You can't have it both ways and your missing my point. Even if hatred of demons is prolific for the goddesses, which I assume it is, it doesn't mean they'd all be fine with this, anymore than those civilian demons maybe not being as evil as the Ten Commandments means they'd actually have a problem with eating souls and such.

edited 29th Jan '17 12:54:52 PM by LSBK

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#4612: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:57:08 PM

Oh sorry I wasn't clear. I'm talking about the Goddess army as well. That's what I meant. I was excluding their civillians.

And yeah it is jumping the gun to assume the civillians go on soul-eating sprees like the soldiers and TC do, we need more info about their society before we assume thst.

edited 29th Jan '17 12:57:38 PM by OmegaRadiance

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#4613: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:58:43 PM

I didn't say anything about going on a soul-eating spree. I said I see no reason to assume they don't like eating souls/have a problem with others doing it.

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#4614: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:11:49 PM

Yeah, right now the story seems to be leaning in the direction of the demons being morally equivalent to the other races, but pretty much every named demon we've seen so far has been a sadistic, genocidal asshole and the unnamed generic ones are just inhuman monsters.

This series has this problem with the contrast of what it wants us to feel and how it actually presents stuff, even on the scale of individual characters. Take Fraudin for example. We are clearly meant to feel sorry for him after Meliodas kills him, but seeing all the abhorrent shit he done - just on top of my head: killing entire kingdom to spite Meliodas, possessing Deryfus and mind controlling Hendricksen for years, killing Deryfus own brother while in his body, ruining the kingdom. turning people into demonic puppets, eating the souls of Holy Knights and forcing the people into hunting the for no other reason than a sadistic pleasure of breaking their spirits- a quick death seems too good for him.

It creates a real dissonance when the story wants me to feel one way, when everything actually shown makes me feel otherwise.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#4615: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:16:18 PM

We actually saw the unnamed generic ones speaking this chapter, but I won't lie and say anyone is going to like those things at all or feel any sympathy for them.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#4616: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:28:34 PM

That's clearly why he focused on Derriere's sister amongst the civillians.

Also the Vampire clan which was wiped out were all human looking. Melodias killing off the sympathetic one because she wanted to die.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#4617: Jan 29th 2017 at 1:41:08 PM

[up][up]We've heard them speak before. One of them told Arthur: "You humans either surrender to us or die."

And there's also that red one the Three Misfits killed that was laughing as it was collecting souls for the Ten Commandments.

edited 29th Jan '17 1:42:22 PM by LSBK

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#4618: Jan 31st 2017 at 3:55:39 PM

Also, maybe you could debate whether he counts as a good example or not, but Fraudrin definitely saw things like mercy and caring about people not directly related to you as traits antonym to what it means to be a demon.

edited 31st Jan '17 3:56:09 PM by LSBK

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#4619: Jan 31st 2017 at 4:02:45 PM

Out of the bunch,only Monspiett looks worried.Even Derriere looks more excited about fighting the Archangels.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#4620: Jan 31st 2017 at 4:05:48 PM

Well, he's one of the more level headed ones. And I think she's too hoped up on the idea of revenge to be worried. She was the same against Nerobasta and he warned her about that too, specifically for confrontations like this.

You know, as far as excuses to flashback delve into lore, this "trial" isn't particularly good. Most of this hasn't even been devoted to that, and I can't help but feel the stuff that actually made Gloxinia and Drole turn is going to be hurried along.

And I still think they're going to go back to being enemies after this, which makes it even more jarring.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#4621: Feb 4th 2017 at 11:11:43 AM

We are seeing more of the past. Archangels vs five of the 10 commandments. Actually it appears 6 are there.

edited 4th Feb '17 11:11:56 AM by Envyus

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#4622: Feb 4th 2017 at 11:42:25 AM

I find myself very curious about Elizabeth's position amongst the Goddesses. Also, I guess all the Archangels are just guys.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#4625: Feb 4th 2017 at 11:55:30 AM

Is it supposed to be Tamriel? That's an angel name in fiction I believe. Sariel is an actual angels name. an Archangel of Death.

Also not surprised Monspiet is the one who says he'll avenge the troops. He's always been portrayed as caring about Derrierre, using his cape to protect her.

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