Even the Girls/Guys Want Her/Him: Queer Version?

Even the lesbians want him? Even the gay men want her? Is that even a thing? Could it be a thing?

Also, is this the right sub-forum to put this...?

I think that is covered in If It's You, It's Okay.

Though next time you want to look for tropes, you're better off in the Lost And Found

I think the queer version can be fit into Even the Girls Want Her or Even the Guys Want Him as well. Those tropes are about a person who attracts people who're normally not attracted to that gender. I don't think we need five different trope pages for what's the same trope for different combinations of genders.

edited 8th Jun '14 12:16:47 AM by AnotherDuck

@the Adeptrogue: Ah, thanks for the recommendation. Also, if it could go under If It's You, It's Okay then theoretically, couldn't Even the Etc. be put under If It's You, It's Okay?

@Another Duck: That's the thing, would a gay male being attracted to a woman be under Even the Girls Want Her or Even the Guys Want Him?

Sometimes it just seems like it'd be easier to mash them into one subtrope, but then you'd have to rename it and combine it...otoh you could have "Straight Women," "Straight Men," "Gay Women," "Gay Men" folders.

edited 8th Jun '14 12:51:46 AM by yggsassil

If It's You, It's Okay is about a single character who's attracted to someone specific against that single character's usual preferences.

ETGWH is about one character who attracts a bunch of people even against their gender preference.

As such, if it's a gay man attracted to a woman, he'd fall under If It's You, It's Okay, since it's about his attraction.

If it's a woman who attracts a bunch of gay men, she'd fall under Even the Girls Want Her, I'd say. The trope's about her.

edited 8th Jun '14 1:21:09 AM by AnotherDuck

@Another Duck: Ohhh, now I get you. Thank you for that clarification.

I'd say this does go under Trope Talk since we're talking about ETGWH.

I completely agree with Another Duck. In this case the gay guy is like a girl so "Even the gay men want her," falls under Even the Girls Want Her.

Okay this is waaaay late but saying that a gay man is the equivalent of a straight woman sounds...really offensive.

That doesn't go further than "both gay men and straight women are attracted to men and not women". It doesn't imply anything else. The examples may have different tones or play out play out differently because of it (which implies a nonequivalence), but as far as the trope is concerned, the same thing is happening. People who're normally not attracted to that sex is attracted to that person of that sex because that person is just that attractive. It's about being so attractive you break normal attraction boundaries.

I also don't get why it would be offensive to be equivalent to a straight woman.

edited 30th Oct '14 4:22:41 AM by AnotherDuck

I see what you're saying; gay men and straight women are attracted to men, nothing more, but it still feels a lot like the possible Unfortunate Implications listed on the Camp Gay page.