ufotable's Fate/Stay Night

Trailer 1

...and 2. I'll embed this one for extra measure.

Looks great. You can almost shiver from the anticipation.

My dick got so hard from watching this, I almost completely forgot Kill La Kill was after.

I AM THE BONE OF MY HYPE.

Looks good. I still don't think f/sn needs a remake, though

Wait, wasn't a new FSN anime thread already made? I think I remember complaining about it at the time.

I love how you remember it because you were complaining about it

Is this the one that is supposedly the third route? Anyway...nice.

Ah, here we go. This one is a bit more searchable

edited 28th May '14 9:54:11 PM by Hylarn

Threads without good titles don't deserve to exist. Or should have their name changed, one or the other.

Should probably use the other one and change its title.

No, we still don't know what route is being adapted.

After numerous attempts to play this game all failed (I'm somewhat tech-blind...), this sounds pretty awesome.

Since Fate/Zero was a success and made by the same studio, I am assuming it will, at last, draws heavily from Haven's Feel. It is the only rote in the game that can satisfactorily be a sequel to F/Z.

A new anime is exactly what F/SN needed. The original one did not adapt even half of the story. And it never addressed many of the lose ends of Fate/Zero. Anyway, unless they commit a mistake of straight adapting Fate again, it will not be exactly a remake.

No it isn't. HF is too similar in tone to FZ and it only resolves Kotomine, Ilya and Sakura's plotlines. The first one by establishing something we already know from Fate Zero and the second one doesn't really matter because Ilya was completely insignificant in Zero. The two actual main characters of FSN do not get real resolution in HF, especially Saber who gets killed off halfway through and becomes a twisted parody of herself. Anything Shirou goes through will also be rather empty if the previous routes don't establish who he is.

If I had to bet on anything, I'd say Fate. And then I'd probably follow that up with adapting all the routes and then HF. An UBW anime might be nice, but we already have the movie and it only really addresses the problem with Kiritsugu's ideas of heroism.

Anyway, we don't know yet. No confirmation.

edited 29th May '14 12:19:22 AM by Arha

You make those sound like flaws, when one of them is extraordinarily unrealistic and the other impossible

Yeah. I know that. I'm just getting kind of tired of fate/. Even if ufotable wants to keep working with TYPE-MOON, there's plenty of things they could do that haven't been mined nearly so heavily

Well, Tsukihime would need its VN remake to come out before anything could be done with it and everything else is basically impossible to adapt at the moment for various reasons.

A Melty Blood movie would be cool, as long as it's more like Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie, and less like Blaz Blue Alter Memory.

Why would they need to wait for the remake?

edited 29th May '14 12:37:31 AM by Rynnec

We already have a Fate anime. Why do it again? Also, you can establish who Shiro is by changing HF to fit the new anime.

Ilya is the daughter of the main character of Zero. She is inconsequential in that story, sure, but from people coming from there, it would be really weird to never have her status aknowledged or explained. Same for Sakura.

Shiro get plenty resolution in HF, albeit a different one than from Fate. And Tohsaka is a major character in F/SN^note She have prominent roles on all routes, while Saber actually get less important as the rotes go on and her story only get fully concluded in HF, specially if you are coming from F/Z and knows her relationship with Sakura(what are the spoiler policy here, anyway?).

I grant you Saber, though. She never got a conclusion in F/Z and it would be unsatisfying to see her lacking so in F/SN as well. But she does have her own anime already.

I didn't intend to make it sound like a flaw. Just as a reason for why a new F/SN anime is a good idea. The game is not fully adapted, so why not? Specially now we got an Fate/Zero anime.

The remake is already coming anyway, so might as well wait for it.

edited 29th May '14 12:33:12 AM by Heatth

Obviously the best answer is to not follow any of the routes completely. Everyone insults DEEN for clumsily inserting elements of other routes, but the problem there was being clumsy, not the fact that they tried. That said I think HF makes the most solid starting point to add elements of Fate and UBW to.

Rynnec: Because not enough fans are really that familiar with Tsukihime anymore. Visual novels are already pretty niche even in Japan and Tsukihime is nearly fifteen years old.

Heatth: I'm saying this as someone that thinks Ilya is one of the best things in FSN, but really, who watches Fate Zero and really gives a crap about Ilya? There is basically no indication that there's anything more to be done with her apart from "Oh, and I never saw her again." And Shirou only gets resolution in HF after taking into Fate. The official word on Fate, UBW and HF is that Fate is the question, UBW the answer and HF an alternative. With HF, you're only getting the alternative with no idea what the question was. And I'd argue that Tohsaka doesn't really have a plot line of her own. She's too stable and sure of her own future with no real angsty past or doubts or whatever.

As far as spoiler policy goes I'm going to assume anyone here has already watched Fate Zero but hasn't read FSN.

edited 29th May '14 12:43:01 AM by Arha

I'd imagine that it would also be quite hard to find an out-of-print doujin game too.

Of course. But what when they actually do see her again? They become curious and will want to see that resolution. Same thing for Sakura.

Not sure if I agree fully. It is not like Fate feels incomplete on its own, at last regarding Shiro. And, anyway, this is like that due the way the story is told, not because of the content of the story itself. A slightly different narrative can easily make any rote to be stand alone (although they are indeed better when viewed in order)

Tohsaka's plot line is Sakura. Or better, Sakura only isn't her plot line in the first two rotes because neither her not the viewers knew it was relevant. But if the viewers have seem Fate/Zero, they will want to see that adressed

Btw, I think you didn't understand me correctly when I said "draws heavily from Haven's Feel". I do agree a straight adaption of that alone wouldn't work fully. But a sequel from Fate/Zero pretty much needs to borrow plenty elements from that route, or it will feel lacking. Namely the stuff about Illya, Sakura and Zouken. But I don't deny the possibility of a heavily edited Fate. But a heavily edited HF could also work.

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I can get behind that.

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Yeah, exactly.

edited 29th May '14 1:00:03 AM by Heatth

Sakura is Sakura's plot line. Tohsaka is only sort of connected to it. It's not about her.

I don't trust any adaptation that tries to cherry pick from different routes. You'll probably just get something like the gibberish Shirou remembers in FHA, which is incredibly convoluted at best and self contradictory at worst.

Sakura is Sakura's plot line, of course. But she is also Shiro's and Tohsaka's in HF. All Tohsaka's character development in HF is about her relationship with Sakura.

As for an adaptation that uses elements from multiple rotes. It could work if they got Natsu to write the relevant additions. But I really agree Clarste that the problem with Deen's adaptation was not that they used elements from other routes. It just that they did a poor job at that. They did overall a poor job in what they didn't change, so it is not surprising.

Sure, sure. But a f/Z fan that sees her show up in the 'sequel' would expect her to have some importance, as the other returning characters do

Also, I'm expecting this to be semi-original— expecting the audience to be familiar with f/Z alone demands several changes