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hellomoto Since: Sep, 2015
#201: May 27th 2016 at 1:05:45 AM

"Hey, I'm back. Sorry it took me a while, the Blue Margrave challenged me to a duel."

"Wait, him? Are you for real? How are you still alive? You don't know how to use sword!"

"I didn't have to. Just threw a cow at him. He will live."

"Why on earth would you do that?!"

"What, she didn't protest."

The Blue Margrave is a he, but the punchline says "she didn't protest", so "she" refers to Mother Earth because the question said 'why on earth'?

I feel the real punchline is "Just threw a cow at him. He will live", while the last two lines don't related to the situation at all.

edited 27th May '16 1:11:23 AM by hellomoto

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#202: May 27th 2016 at 1:37:04 AM

It isn't, though. The punchline is "she didn't protest" because cows can't talk.

But either one can be the punchline, so up to you.

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#203: May 27th 2016 at 1:42:35 AM

[up][up] By her, I meant the cow but that's certainly an interesting way to see it.

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#204: May 27th 2016 at 4:46:55 AM

That joke was actually funny.

The punchline is that the cow didn't protest is the reason there is nothing wrong with the toss. It will remain funny if cows can in fact talk. "Threw a cow at him" is an inherently funny phrase that works to build up the joke.

hellomoto Since: Sep, 2015
#205: May 27th 2016 at 4:56:11 AM

How about "It didn't protest"? The "it" pronoun would make me realize faster that the cow-tosser meant the cow was the one who didn't protest, which was why the joke fell flat for me (I didn't understand what was actually meant).

Could also straight-up say "The cow didn't protest", though it probably wouldn't sound as snappy.

Would "Well, it didn't protest" in place of "What, it didn't protest" roll off the tongue better?

Or "What? It didn't protest!".

edited 27th May '16 4:58:36 AM by hellomoto

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#206: May 27th 2016 at 5:09:07 AM

All cows are female though.

I like "What, it didn't protest." more as it has faster delivery and more clearly demonstrates the dissonance inherent in the scene.

edited 27th May '16 5:09:26 AM by war877

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#207: May 27th 2016 at 5:19:00 AM

I prefer "she," because it makes you think about it just a TINY bit more, so it's wittier. You go "OK, there's dudes (presumably dudes) in this scene but not a woman. Who's the 'she?' Ohhhhhhh." Plus, it's a bit odd because people generally don't use gender pronouns for animals, so it stands out. That's why it's a "real" punchline.

"It" or "the cow" is essentially dumbing it down IMO. People who read a lot of comedy will catch that faster, and they're presumably the audience you're going for.

edited 27th May '16 5:25:40 AM by Wheezy

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#208: May 27th 2016 at 6:26:01 AM

Plus, it's a bit odd because people generally don't use gender pronouns for animals, .

They don't?

edited 27th May '16 6:26:14 AM by dRoy

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#209: May 27th 2016 at 6:30:22 AM

[up]It depends from language to language, and in languages where they are allowed gendered pronouns, from person to person.

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#210: May 27th 2016 at 8:26:30 AM

[up][up] In American English, usually not unless it's a pet.

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#211: May 27th 2016 at 8:31:37 AM

[up][up], [up] Ah, I see.

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#212: May 27th 2016 at 4:13:01 PM

I meant I like "what, it didn't protest" more than "well, it didn't protest." I also like she more.

Until the day it is not considered disrespectful to refer to humans as it, I don't see how it makes sense to refer to any gendered object in the neuter.

edited 27th May '16 4:21:19 PM by war877

hellomoto Since: Sep, 2015
#213: May 27th 2016 at 11:37:57 PM

I prefer "she," because it makes you think about it just a TINY bit more, so it's wittier. You go "OK, there's dudes (presumably dudes) in this scene but not a woman. Who's the 'she?' Ohhhhhhh." Plus, it's a bit odd because people generally don't use gender pronouns for animals, so it stands out. That's why it's a "real" punchline.

Over the course of 24 hours I tried to work out who 'she' is, and arrived at the conclusion that you meant the earth. I had to have the joke explained to me. In my mind the cow was an animal, an object, so I couldn't make the link at all. Maybe I would've gotten it if the cow was an established character ("You threw Jessie? She's my pet cow!").

Also, punchlines have to hit fast for the humor to work. When it's in the middle of a story with so many things happening, audiences won't remember a joke unless it was funny right there and then. Not remembering a joke tends to do the exact opposite of making a joke funny.

edited 27th May '16 11:40:52 PM by hellomoto

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#214: May 27th 2016 at 11:49:58 PM

I guess it's cultural. People where I live don't use it for animals. I am also trying to think of examples from media. I can think of several where cows were referred to as she, but none where cows were referred to as it.

[up]The audience forgetting a joke is a good thing. You only want them to remember the good ones.

edited 27th May '16 11:55:28 PM by war877

hellomoto Since: Sep, 2015
#215: May 28th 2016 at 12:14:14 AM

They forgot the joke because they didn't even realize it's a joke at all.

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#216: May 28th 2016 at 11:15:55 AM

[up] I got it in 10-30 seconds. ....Meaning it caught some of the audience, but not others. Like every piece of humor in history.

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#217: May 30th 2016 at 9:37:01 AM

I thought it wasn't that obscure. I guess it's one of those hit or miss line. XP

Another line:

"Wait...Seyton, did you just hear that?"

"Oh God, yes. That's this castle's self-destruction sequence being activated."

"Why on Earth would a castle have a self-destruction sequence?!"

"The whole thing is designed to protect the secret codebook, if that's in its original place, the sequence shouldn't be activated!"

"Does the book happen to look like this?"

"Yes, exactly like that. Oh."

"...Is it too late to put it back?"

"If I die while you don't, I'm haunting your ass."

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#218: May 30th 2016 at 10:08:25 AM

[up] It's a cliche final line - although I don't think you knew that when you wrote it - but if you put enough interesting wordings and in-universe context leading up to it (you need both), it can provide a good punchline.

edited 30th May '16 10:08:41 AM by Wheezy

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#219: May 30th 2016 at 11:38:58 AM

...Yeah, I'm just gonna admit that yes, I didn't know it was a cliche. XP

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#220: May 30th 2016 at 8:19:29 PM

That is another really good punchline and buildup.

If it is a cliché, I need to read more.

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#221: Jun 23rd 2016 at 12:38:58 AM

"Oh God, look at all these blood on the ground!"

"Yeah, I mean, damn. They are ruining my boots. Our informant better be here."

"Well, about that...I have a good news and a bad news. Which one do you want first?"

"My flask is still half full, so good news."

"Okay, so the good news is, that our informant IS here."

"Really? Where is he?"

"The bad news is...you are stepping on him."

"What do you mean...oh. Oh well, I wasn't planning to quit drinking anytime soon."

"Please leave some for me too, I can definitely use it."

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#222: Jun 23rd 2016 at 9:41:32 AM

The grammar nazi in me asks, why are you referring to blood in the plural?

There is only so much humour you can draw out of a scene like that, and I think you got all of it.

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#223: Jun 23rd 2016 at 8:50:45 PM

Grammar is one of my (numerous) writing weaknesses, and I appreciate you pointing it out.

Well, at least it did draw any humor. XP

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hellomoto Since: Sep, 2015
#224: Jun 24th 2016 at 3:29:56 AM

It also drew a lot of blood.

Yes, that's my idea of a punchline.

SephirotAero Since: Apr, 2014
#225: Aug 19th 2016 at 8:04:01 PM

I can't tell the difference between Italian foods. I think this is why Linguini's blacklisted my number

"Why do you keep calling asking for food we don't have?! I told you, for the fifth FUCKING time, we don't have that here. We don't have spaghetti, we don't have pasta, we don't have lasagna, we don't have ravioli, and, for the love of God, WE DON'T HAVE RISOTTO. I'm not even sure what that is!"

"...What kind of Italian restaurant doesn't know what risotto is?"

"A PIZZA PLACE!!"

Is this good for crack comedy?

EDIT: Sorry if this is thread necromancy.

edited 19th Aug '16 8:06:26 PM by SephirotAero


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