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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#27: May 14th 2014 at 6:14:19 PM

NHK made an announcement on whether the cabinet will allow collective self-defense. So far, no decision is made yet.

Opposition groups have suggested putting the matter in a vote.

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#29: May 15th 2014 at 4:11:00 AM

Good for them.

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#31: May 15th 2014 at 6:04:12 PM

(groans at China's "ocean-grabbing")

I feel very bad for Vietnam right now.

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#32: May 15th 2014 at 8:05:29 PM

Why is South Korea So Anti-Semitic?

Could they have just mis-read the question?

Because I am totally surprised that they even have the concept of "Jewish".

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#33: May 15th 2014 at 8:27:05 PM

[up]South Korea has some weird fundamentalist Christian groups, like the supposed 3 million followers of self-proclaimed messiah Sun Myung Moon. It's possible there is some level of familiarity with fundamentalist conspiracy theories about Jewish people through that influence.

edited 15th May '14 8:27:16 PM by editerguy

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#34: May 16th 2014 at 12:25:02 AM

[up] Also South Korea has a higher percentage of population of Christians than pretty much anywhere else in East Asia. Probably amplifies the signal a bit.

Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#35: May 16th 2014 at 5:27:47 AM

The immigration thing is a very big question to Japan (and I suspect South Korea too) since they're getting an aging population year after year and they want to keep the Japanese gene pool in a homogenous way. I remember that it became headlines there when the Ministry of Justice offered to Brazilians of Japanese origin a one-way ticket back to South America free of charge on the condition that they can't come back for a few years.

edited 16th May '14 7:07:46 AM by Ominae

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#36: May 16th 2014 at 5:30:14 AM

How many Brazilian Japanese are there in Japan?

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#37: May 16th 2014 at 5:32:08 AM

Five. Two of them are arseholes, but the other three are good lads. tongue

edited 16th May '14 5:58:56 AM by Achaemenid

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#38: May 16th 2014 at 5:35:13 AM

Considering that there are about a million and a half of them in Brazil...

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#39: May 16th 2014 at 7:07:29 AM

As of 2012 stats: 210,032 residents.

Most are concentrated in Nagoya, Hamamatsu, Toyota & Ōizumi. You may find the occasional one in Tokyo if you bump into them. Don't be surprised if you see a Brazilian/Japanese community near a city/area where there's an auto manufacturing facility since it's the first place they find work. This is because most Japanese don't want to work there, only except as a last resort.

A lot of Brazilian-Japanese are discriminated by full-blooded Japanese because of their family origins or because they can't be fluent in the language (A majority of them aren't this 'cause they migrated to Japan in the 1980s to be contract worker before the economic miracle plummeted, except for those who come from upper/middle class families).

On the other hand, a lot of Japanese are studying Portuguese, being the sought after language in 3rd place after Chinese and Korean due to the efforts of Brazilian-Japanese groups to promote their heritage to ordinary Japanese. Oizumi, in fact, has 15% of its population that can speak fluent Portuguese.

edited 16th May '14 7:10:38 AM by Ominae

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#42: May 17th 2014 at 7:41:32 AM

Here's a video made by the AFP on Brazilian-Japanese nationals who are suffering from problems in adapting to Japanese life.

edited 17th May '14 7:47:05 AM by Ominae

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#44: May 17th 2014 at 12:18:27 PM

The video appears to be blocked now.

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#45: May 17th 2014 at 5:56:06 PM

@de

- Weird. It worked a while ago before I placed it here.

@Quag

- Looks like the collective self-defense thing may be hard for the LDP to work things out with...

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#46: May 17th 2014 at 10:19:35 PM

Looks like Abe specifically mentioned being able to help with "collective security" of Southeast Asian nations.

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#47: May 18th 2014 at 6:57:23 AM

That might be problematic. How many people in East Asia still have problems with the Japanese from WWII? I know China and Korea, even SK do, but I'm wondering about Vietnam, Philipines, Indonesia etc.

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#48: May 18th 2014 at 7:22:54 AM

I'd be very surprised if Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Indonesia, and Malaysia didn't have suspicions about Japan when it comes to military affairs in the region.

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#49: May 18th 2014 at 7:32:15 AM

Vietnam and Japan actually get on surprisingly well; Tokyo pumps a lot of money and tech in the Vietnamese economy. Vietnam seems rather magnanimous towards their former oppressors in general (possibly because they beat them allnote ) in fact. Hanoi-Washington relations are extremely good, all things considered.

edited 18th May '14 7:39:33 AM by Achaemenid

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#50: May 18th 2014 at 8:50:43 AM

Truth is, anti-Japanese sentiment is completely unfair by now. The question is, who do people in SW Asia fear more, the Japanese or the Chinese?

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