Cinema Sins

Huh? He goes down because the guy gets injected with a dozen or so doses of a drug that makes blood explode. And he's now a being of blood. The sword strikes do nothing of import.

He also Never actually lands a blow on Blade. sure, he regenerates, but he proves no particular threat to Blade. For a god who is supposed to "bring the darkness" and allow Vampires to no longer fear the sun... He does amazingly little.

Eh, he was an unstoppable, immortal dickwad who was positive that Blade couldn't possibly hurt him. He was toying with Blade the whole time.

He just didn't see that blood-explode-y serum coming.

Didn't expect this to get sinned, but then I didn't expect an Honest Trailer on it either.

Yeah, uh, that was... fast.

And as someone who hasn't seen the original, came off as nit-picky.

edited 1st Sep '16 10:46:12 AM by Larkmarn

I enjoyed how he took apart the first half of the film. It really was that weak and disconnected.

For your own sakes, don't read the comments to that.

Well Duh

Youtube comments. Who reads that? :-P

He also made a bonus vid for the Ultimate Edition of Batman v Superman.

I haven't seen the movie because I already didn't like the book very much but Jesus, who looked at The Killing Joke, a comic already heavily scrutinized for its transparent fridging of a prominent female character and subsequent treatment of it as business as usual, and then went, "You know what? This story is good, but I feel that it doesn't hate women enough. We need to spice things up with some misogyny."

Like, I knew about the bullshit about Batgirl and Batman being in a sexual relationship, but this still managed to be much worse than I'd imagined.

edited 3rd Sep '16 11:55:22 AM by TobiasDrake

...But Barbara lived.

Fridging doesn't necessarily mean killing off.

Yeah. They didn't kill her, but they did paralyze her for reasons wholly unrelated to her agency in order to cause Manpain to not one but two men in her lives. It's a pretty shitty way to treat the franchise's primary female protagonist.

The comic's writer, Alan Moore, has called out the one-shot as not being very good in the years since and one of his regrets was the decision to paralyze Barbara. In an interview for Wizard magazine, Moore recalled,

The guys who made the movie appear to have gone, "How can we make this even shittier? Got it! She's sleeping with Batman before it happens, making him Manpain even HARDER! And also it wasn't a horrible way to get rid of a well-loved female superhero because she quit being Batgirl just before it happened! Because it was hard. NAILED IT!"

Alan Moore was also able to get away with implying that Batman may have killed the Joker in the aftermath. Batman spends the entire comic pondering the question of whether he and the Joker are doomed to battle each other until it kills one or both of them. In the aftermath of the comic, he gives the Joker one last chance to come back, and the Joker refuses by telling the titular joke. The comic ends on Batman silhouetted with his hands on the Joker's collar, then pans away as the Joker's laughter abruptly cuts out and goes to silence.

It's left to audience interpretation whether Batman has fulfilled his own question by killing the Joker. Moore could get away with this because the comic was never meant to be DC canon. It was just a one-off about exploring a possible explanation for the Joker, but its popularity resulted in it being adopted into the canon. Which meant Barbara's paralysis became canon, and also that the ending became an unambiguous, "No, Batman didn't kill him, don't be silly. His bloody retribution for Barbara's paralysis was to share a hearty laugh with the Joker, slap him on the wrist, and send him to spend another night in Arkham planning his next scheme!"

In addition to making everything about Barbara so much worse, the movie seems to have pretty unapologetically rolled with the "LOL, that wacky Joker, no hard feelings!" version of the ending.

EDIT: Also, despite all the changes they made to the story, it's interesting that one thing they felt they had to leave untouched is the part where the Joker sexually assaults Barbara.

Controversy has raged forever over whether or not the Joker raped her. The answer, ultimately, is a yes and a no. There's no evidence that he did, but he does strip her naked and take photos of her while she's bleeding out from the gutshot, which is not rape but is sexual assault.

The backlash against the accusation, however, is also interesting because of the way people have reacted to the suggestion that the Joker might be a rapist. We've debated over in OTC the idea that Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil is a trope that does more harm than good, and the Joker is one of the best examples because of the way people respond to even the suggestion. Fans are livid over the suggestion. Eager to cry out, "Rape?! Are you serious? The Joker is a better man than that!"

But that's getting a bit off-topic. Point is, The Killing Joke has been heavily criticized for its treatment of a beloved female character and rightly so. The movie seems to have turned the problematic treatment up to eleven rather than making any effort to be more female-friendly.

edited 3rd Sep '16 7:52:18 PM by TobiasDrake

Jesus Christ that line. 'You're good in the sack.' I have no words on the quality of the writing.

Then again that's probably the food poison.

Citizen Kane.

edited 6th Sep '16 9:38:30 AM by GethKnight

Wow, what's with all these classic movies lately?

Running out of obvious ones, maybe?

Wow. Holy shit. They did it.

Now I demand Sins vid of Casablanca, Gone with the Wind, The Godfather, and The Shawshank Redemption!

I like when they do videos of movies they actually like. It's much more enjoyable to listen to the sins when they're clearly having a good time watching it instead of indifferently looking for something to add to the sin counter.

I want to see them sin a movie like Schindlers list.

I knew this day would come. It was just a matter of when.

It's the Citizen Kane of Cinemasins videos.

The Shawshank Redemption video would go like this:

[...]
*ding* 21
Morgan Freeman narrates.
*reverse ding* negative infinity

edited 7th Sep '16 9:55:59 PM by golgothasArisen

For those who care: There's a Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition video up. 14 minutes of more of the same from the theatrical cut. Not linking because I just don't care enough to bother.

The sinning's not even 13 minutes long.

edited 8th Sep '16 9:09:23 PM by randomness4