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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#101: May 22nd 2014 at 9:23:52 AM

We just had a preview of faction leaders with different civilization bonuses and maluses, so probably. You've got your corporate guy, your diplomacy girl, etc.

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#102: May 22nd 2014 at 9:26:47 AM

True, but the Civ IV leaders each had bonuses too, without any real personality.

kingtiger522 Since: Jul, 2012
#103: May 22nd 2014 at 1:51:31 PM

I think they've said that they want to amp up the leader personality from Civ 5 into something a bit more well-rounded. Haven't played SMAC, does that sound about right?

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#104: May 22nd 2014 at 1:54:04 PM

The personalities of the leaders in Civ V are more like subtle AI traits, they aren't really people in any developed sense. On the other hand, the faction leaders of SMAC were unique and (at least somewhat) developed characters with distinct personalities and motivations.

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#105: May 23rd 2014 at 4:13:27 PM

Supremacy! Resistance is futile.

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Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#106: May 24th 2014 at 1:52:57 PM

I'm interested in seeing what the Harmony units (probably my favorite idea of the three) will look like. I'm going to guess that they'll take off their helmets at some point (maybe around tier 3?) and genetically engineer themselves into ethereal-looking Navi people by the end of the game.

I wonder if they'll somehow modify their vehicles into Tyranid/Yuuzhan Vong-esque biomachines, or if they'll just ditch transport altogether and ride around on the giant worms and such?

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kingtiger522 Since: Jul, 2012
#108: May 24th 2014 at 3:56:53 PM

[up][up][up]I kind of like those, but I'm hoping we'll have more color options in the main game. The grey and yellow isn't working for me.

Also hoping that, in addition to the Affinity differences, there's also (slightly) different looks for each culture.

edited 24th May '14 4:00:34 PM by kingtiger522

lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#109: May 30th 2014 at 12:41:03 PM

Civilization: Attack of the Hippies!

Aka Harmony Dev Blog

edited 30th May '14 12:41:19 PM by lrrose

Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#110: May 30th 2014 at 12:53:30 PM

Yeah, I'm definitely going Harmony for my first playthrough.

My only (minor) gripe with the units so far is that there should be another transitional form between the second and third units for each civilization. As is it is so far, it seems like too big a jump to go from that blocky white aesthetic to cyborgs/biotech/space marine units.

kingtiger522 Since: Jul, 2012
#111: May 30th 2014 at 12:53:50 PM

[up]I'm kind of disappointed they didn't go grosser, more biomechanical.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#112: May 30th 2014 at 1:03:42 PM

I'm very disappointed that they didn't go full Organic Technology. Apparently affinity only affects people's aesthetics.

Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#113: May 30th 2014 at 4:33:56 PM

Well, I suppose the harmony ideology is all about working with the planet; they might be built out of environmentally friendly materials or "grown" out of organic matter, or something similar. They do look more organic when contrasted against the other two, for what that's worth.

kingtiger522 Since: Jul, 2012
#114: May 30th 2014 at 5:14:58 PM

[up]Yeah, but still. You can find designs that look like that today; organic contours do not organic technology make. I was hoping for either extensive bio engineering or biomechanical designs. As it is, the different faction units are looking too similar to each other.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#115: May 30th 2014 at 11:01:33 PM

On a similar note, I'm not sure the Supremacy units look mechanical enough either. I understand that it's hard to show the difference between a guy in a tank and a guy who is a tank, but I think they could have given the infantry units some kind of inhuman proportions to emphasize that it's more integrated than a guy in a suit.

edited 31st May '14 3:41:20 PM by Clarste

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#116: May 31st 2014 at 2:22:50 AM

Predictable but good:

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kingtiger522 Since: Jul, 2012
#117: May 31st 2014 at 10:09:39 AM

[up][up]Yeah, this. The proportions are all too similar; there's really no sense of the (supposedly) trans or in human aspects.

Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#118: May 31st 2014 at 10:20:06 AM

It doesn't seem like that big a deal for me. I mean, in Civ V all the units (except for the one or two uniques) were identical except for color schemes, even when you'd expect them to have different skin colours, clothes, etc.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#119: May 31st 2014 at 3:42:29 PM

I wouldn't have minded if they hadn't made a big deal of it. They told us they would be making affinities look different, and even went out of their way to have these previews of the differences, but the result is underwhelming.

kingtiger522 Since: Jul, 2012
#121: Jun 7th 2014 at 2:18:01 PM

[up]Looks good.[tup]

Also, the fact that we might get the opportunity to domesticate/ride the aliens later on suggests that the unit previews weren't a really good representation of things, so that's nice.

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Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#123: Jun 7th 2014 at 4:51:05 PM

Anyone else picking up a Spore-style vibe from the planet's surface and its alien inhabitants?

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#124: Jun 7th 2014 at 5:06:31 PM

I like that Harmony will let you ride the aliens and stuff.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#125: Jun 7th 2014 at 5:46:47 PM

Those two didn't look too happy to be interviewed, but the game looks interesting.


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